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  1. Yes,and please let me know if i can help any with translation(Russian is the only language i have other than English,but i'm a fluent speaker). P.S. Another characteristic he points out is that Evenki make their knives somewhat thicker than other people around,that too pertains to taking joints apart.
  2. Aiden,he starts out by saying that among all those knives on the table only one is Evenki-the one he picks up. Then he says that for the Right-handed person the fuller is on the Right(just like the other video above). He himself is a Lefty,but before he figured it out he just got used to using Right-handed knife... Another reason they're on the narrow side is for taking game meat apart at the joint.It is taboo for Evenki to use an axe on meat,and all joints get taken apart using a knife. That much longer knife at about 7:40 is for fleshing hides. Later he talks for the necessity of a knife to have the point drop somewhat.That is for doing the tails on fur-bearers,and for gutting.
  3. Aiden,no...just the opposite...His knife in this video is concave/fullered on the Right side (as you look down at the spine of the knife/knife pointing away from you). But-Aboimov himself may be a lefty...In the video about making skis he sure uses his axe easily and handily with his left...either that or he's enviably ambidextrous. You're right in that to "drill" with,for a Right-handed guy,would be easier with fuller on the Left(and going clock-wise). So maybe he's a Lefty(i'll try to find out),or it's a matter of adaptation,getting used to that awkward outward motion with your wrist. He does say that getting used to this knife is half or more of the battle,that it took him quite a bit of time to acquire the necessary automatism... He also states that the knife in this video is quite old and worn(i too noticed that it's quite narrow closer to handle). You also bring up a tricky point here-Hardness...I don't quite know what to say...Cautiously i want to think that their knives in general were on the much softer side if you consider how hard everything is nowadays. There's even anecdotal evidence that Sakha at times would bend a knife just for a specific task at hand(like scraping a bowl of a given radius).This has not been substantuated to my knowledge. So the jury is still out on this. And it also brings us to the question of Bi-metallism...Were their knives laminated?Was that long delicate tip mostly soft iron,with a thin steeling on convex side? Is that a part of the design,sharpening on the flat/fullered side,just like hollow-ground wood chisel,or some of Japanese cutlery? (there Is a faction that tries to draw parallels between Sakha shapes and those of Japanese tools...for the most part they seem to be russians set on proving that native people did not,could not have any technologies of their own but must by definition have borrowed them elsewhere.Bad science,that,and most unpleasant bigotry). From the ancient Sakha epic poem,"Olonho",we know that they clearly differentiated between the low-/medium-/and high-carbon content in their steel.The larger knife-like hunter's spear,baty'yah,was often a composite.They definitely practiced steeling edges on things. Evenki,who live to the North of Sakha,have metalworking traditions of their own.Were those based or derived from those of Sakha i do not know...To the East of all these people(but not unimaginably far)were the Mohe(or Churchen)culture.Sometimes referred to as proto-Koreans,the peak of their culture was around 9th-10th c.c. AD,during which time their metalworking was insanely developed and complex. So the derivation question in Eastern Siberia(including parts of China,Korea,and Japan south of it) is hugely complex.
  4. I've paid closer attention to this man's videos of late: It is the same guy as in videos above,but now he's on his own,without that other odd guy. This man's name is Nikolay Iosifovich(N.I.) Aboimov.He has moved to that part of Siberia(North of Sakha Republic,Verkhoyansk Range,Stanovoy Range,et c) in the late 1960-ies.,and pretty much spent his entire life there,working as a commercial hunter,trapper,deer-herder and guide to geologic and ethnographic expeditions. Besides being extremely knowledgeable i also am learning to like and respect his attitude towards the Evenki,and other aboriginal people of the area. He's respectful to a fault,consistently crediting them with concepts/designs/methods et c.,making sure to bring up their own names for objects.Several times in every video he states that he's showing things that were shown to him by Evenki,shared with him freely and in the spirit of benignity and helpfullness. Whatever his motivation is in making these videos(i've no idea what material gains may be implicit),but i'd not be surprised that there's more than a healthy dose of altruism there,he just wants to share all that he learned and loved about his life on the tundra and taiga). He cooperates closely with at least one regional ethnographic museum,and all that i've seen so far gives me an idea that he's a very decent,honest,well-meaning man. So i'm very relieved to've found none of the (too common)propensity to capitalise on the Evenki culture in any sleazy,inappropriate manner,but quite the opposite-he's entirely truthful and informative and therefore trustworthy on these matters. Anyway,in that video above he shows a typical knife that an Evenki man would carry and use on the daily basis,the main and often the only tool out in the "field". He points out specifically that the point tends to be a symmetrical cone,for assorted boring.Smaller holes with the very tip,and larger mortises that about everything used in taiga requires. (everything from a deer-,or a dog-sled to pack-boards saddles et c.,et c.,is mortised and lashed-strict necessity allowing things to flex to stay in one piece by dissipating forces vs absorbing them). Planing is another function that is very important,having to do with joining the surfaces but also with waterproofing them for longevity,but many mechanical issues as well(like the bottoms of skis). Planing is often done using the knife as a drawknife,tip held in other hand,bevel down. And of course like any knife whittling away from you bevel up.
  5. I think you're doing an Excellent job re-interpreting,synthesizing these old designs with the originals,on the one hand,and your own/modern vision of the lines. All that as applies to aesthetics and physics both(what makes it so challenging). That Sakha blade is awesome,lovely lines. I've learned a bit more about Evenki "koto" knives,will try to post it in the Wooden Sheath thread...
  6. I'm with BillyO on this...If any kind of fundraising event or anything will be in the works please keep me in the loop....
  7. (from what i hear there were NO one lost or injured.....(.. also that it has started elsewhere,industrial space next door...:(...)
  8. Great job,Aiden,right on. I also think it's entirely worthwhile to skip as many of the uncertain intermediate imitators between the originals(?...pre-Idustrial?),and the present. Might as well go as close to the source of the design as one can. Looking good on all these knives.
  9. A quick update... (it's time to wrap up this thread,my bad brain invariably frays Any thread out making it diverge in too many directions,and this one has come to this point:(...) Today is mostly charcoal-making day,but couldn't resist a brief test of my new magiK dies. My tired old sow-block is cracked,and repaired by three machine bolts...has been this way since before my time of ownership...ah,well... Et voila!The scookum new dies...In my excitement i installed the bottom one backwards,coinsiding the front vertical faces,but changed it after the first heat(also shimming it out a bit as the key was just a touch too deep in there). It worked a treat!!!...Thanks,Josh,from the bottom of my heart. I do have a number of half-done heads that i need to try it on,but to begin with i wanted to subject it to the cruellest test i needed to conduct for a while now. All too often,for reasons i won't go into here,we think in terms of Inlayed,or inserted bit on axes.However,starting around mid-1800's this country has increasingly rapidly was converting to the Overlayed bit;till eventually during the Golden Age of American tool-making every axe forged was overlayed,way into the 20th century. Why was that?One of the reasons that i can think about(well,a couple,thinking is a disease with me...:(..)is both the quality of iron(see Jennifer's thread,good example of that),and that pesky,annoying seam forward of the eye,which is always just a royal PITA. So in an overlayed-bit version that front seam gets pounded in,and then securely wrapped about with higher-C steel,so whatever it may choose to do under there subsequently doesn't really matter...(like everything else not new under the moon this method is also timeless,and old Dahlgren demonstrates it on that classic old Wira film,but that hails from the culture where axes were often and easily re-bladed,and he uses a minimum amount of steel;whereas the later American axes were massively steeled). So that was my inquiry for today,trying to forge an overlayed-bit blank. An ugly old Hydr-ax blade,1/2+thick,of which i carved out a section 3"x 4". One edge forged down thin,now i swapped sides and leaving about 1 1/2" full thickness in the middle do the other side symmetrically. (Dies are working Corker!Sweet....:). After forging down the other edge i bend them down into the staple-shape and attempt to forge down that thick middle part on edge,to upset it if possible,or to at least Forge it,as in having it bulge out in the middle,vs becoming concave/fish-mouthed... In spite of my fumbling,inexpert process(and crap photo)you can see that it at least Kinda worked...And That was the point of this experiment-this could Not have been done by hand... I love my new dies...and have a number of things to think about now...(that specific bit i'll probably never use-it expanded to about 3 1/2" in length,and would be enough for a 4-5 lb axe or bigger...Lord preserve me from forging one that heavy...:(...
  10. Cool forging,Gerald,where do you think you'll be going with this?
  11. REALLY nice,Jennifer,thanks for all the additional photos. Great control of this challenging stuff,and good for you for appreciating all of it's wildness and beauty!:0 Great job,again,i'd bet it's a good tool.
  12. Nice job,Jennifer,way to go. Beautiful iron,i know not the easiest to work with but what gorgeous grain,love that... What's it look like from the top?
  13. You're a maniac,Ibor!:)...this much gear would qualify as arms race,you could start a war if you keep going like that... (i must say i don't blame you,considering your neighbor to the East though...:( Beautiful work on those sockets,man,just wonderful.That's a tremendous skill to practice,sockets...Excellent work.
  14. Thanks,Alan,i hope so too...That axe is now gone,deployed...Unleashed upon the country's unsuspecting willows and trees downed across it's trails...A better axeman than i is now wielding it,thankfully. And i realised that i've yet another axe i need to finish,for a friend in Fairbanks,for his summer fish-camp up rive above us here. Picking through my horrible box of past forgings i settled on the head that is actually slit&drifted,WI body and god only knows what for blade(either leaf-spring or a piece of a broken Chinese axe,it's been a while since i had any decent steel in any decent size... Here's what it looked like out of the stash box(the line across marks the extent to which the edge steel reaches): And thse are the top and bottom views.The eye is styled after some very old ones,which has an inverse taper,and were held on sans wedge(by magic).I'm going to re-do it though,as i want my friend to be able to replace the haft easily with a conventional one,and not have to carve a custom handle out of some wood that he'd have to seek out somewhere somehow et c. So the first order of business i drift the eye out to a conventional,2 1/4# boy's axe style handle. It was very easy,as the circumference of these eyes was apparently the same...(something to think about). Then i pein that half-finished blade out to the max area,till i can't no more...And that's where i had to quit that: The corrections to the general outline will be minor,here's how it was drawn,and pretty much cut with a disc&ground to that,no biggie(in a way it's relaxing to just roll with it,not strive for some specific shape or period appropriate-ness...): Here's what the top looked like after grinding(nice welds on this one...nary a crack or any sign of b.s...i'm almost alarmed at that..): Then a quick trial fit to a boy's axe handle...Looks ok...i don't have a scale,but it feels like maybe just a touch over 2#,so about right for this 28" handle... Then HT,and a slight grind,and this is what it looks like now(pretty darn disappointingly generic...i may do something creative with them lugs...like some old Brit style of unequal-sided pyramid..): But This,the top view,is actually something that i'm pretty happy with-and this is really where the heart,the Function of any axe lies: And THIS-is a my new magic weapon!Gifted to me by a powerful sorcerer,el nagual,the great and powerful Joshua States,Esq.,the drawing dies of Power! With this i'll have the blade of Any thickness by the short and curlies....I'll try it out here forthwith on the fattest and the meanest of my ugly laminates....
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