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  1. Geoff Keyes

    Naginata Naoshi

    Or something in that style. After my spectacular flameout on water quenching, I decided to do some forging today. So, camera in hand, Child Random sallied out to do battle. I've had this sitting on the bench for a long time, I don't even remember where it came from. It's a RR track clip marked "32RE MS61". If anyone can tell what those numbers mean, I'd like to know. It's about 1" square and the rumors are that it's 1060 or some such. It sparks like high carbon and it's a booger to move. 1st heat, under the press 2nd heat. A couple of whacks with a 10 single jack over the horn and then the press The press again. It's not wide enough for what I want, so I pressed it down to about .5" (pretty roughly) and then went to the hammer. I'm always reminded that I don't have a fullering die for the press (gotta get that built) so I used my drawing dies on the hammer sideways. which works, but is scary. One of the toggle ends is right by my head. Gotta get that spreading die built. This took a while, a number of heats (this is where the horizontal forge works better. My vertical forge only heats about 6 inches at a time.) Roughly 1 3/4 Starting the tang, power hammer again. Most of the length of tang done. You can really see how much length I got out of the clip. I have the tip mostly shaped and most of the size established. It's pretty big, I may have to think about that, the block it's sitting on is 29 inches, that makes the blade 17 or 18 inches. Below it is another piece I'm working on, a big integral Bowie, it's about 15 inches to the bolster. It started out as a 2 5/8ths round of 1084 that I knocked down as a demo for a student. I got the clip forged and some taper in, I could probably get 2 more inches by drawing, but I think the proportion are where I want them, bevels still to forge, that will give me an inch easy. Geoff
  2. Geoff Keyes

    Water quenching

    I "may" have been a little overenthusiastic about my successes with the whole water quench thing . I'm blaming most of my failures on my tempering oven. It packed up in the middle and most of the blades got no temper overnight, which cracked them. That's my story. So now I have to go forge more stuff. Oh, No! Don't make me forge things! As the man said "If you ain't failing, you ain't tryin g
  3. Geoff Keyes

    Water quenching

    Sorry, don't know why that reposted. The mystery of the machine, I guess g
  4. Geoff Keyes

    Water quenching

    I had a bunch of forged Asian style things waiting for HT that I decided to stop procrastinating on. Today was the day. A non trad yari, a couple of wak's, a cuttoe and a light dress sabre (OK, not Asian) a tanto and a santuko, and last, a field sword. Everything was water quenched, most were clayed. It went pretty well. The yari took a bend, so I will counter bend just a bit and retry. Everything except the field sword survived. That one I fumbled getting into the oven and when it hit the concrete I snapped about 6 inches off the tip. On the bright side, the grain was super tight like gray flour . In the oven now, I will start working on warps tomorrow. Take that, Dave Baker, water quench! Geoff
  5. Geoff Keyes

    Water quenching

    I'm happy to announce that I can FINALLY talk about this. Our episode is scheduled, NDA's are off. I've just been dying to talk about this, but I'll keep the detail to myself for now. Just wanted to say that I did the thing. FIF Geoff
  6. Geoff Keyes

    Burner Placement

    I'm not trying to talk you out of ribbon burners, Wayne Coe is one of the on site guys to talk to about them. It's just one more level of complexity that you may not need right now. Have you looked at this thread? You need about 50 cfm for a propane tank size forge, I use 100 cfm just to have some headroom. This one is pretty close to what I use, though I prefer a round flange for mounting purposes. Geoff
  7. Geoff Keyes

    Wayne Goddard RIP

    Wayne was a great guy. He was one of the early ABS Mastersmiths and one of the powers behind the idea of a minimalist shop. Not that his shop lacked tools, he had one of the first forging presses I ever heard about, a 70 tonner named Fat Albert, but he believed that you could do this stuff with very little, hence the book. He was also one of the founders of the Oregon Knife Makers Association, who put on the biggest knife show on the west coast. One of the first knife making classes I took was with Wayne and Gene Chapman. To show you what Wayne thought about knifemaking and the community, when his illness eroded his skills to the point he could no longer make pieces to his own high standards, he gave up his MS stamp. Geoff
  8. Geoff Keyes

    Burner Placement

    I don't know that this will help you, but this is my EDF. I'm a blown burner guy, so if you're having trouble with venturies, others will have to help you. I also have a common rail welding forge and common rail HT forge, both blown and both horizontal. What is your forge doing that you don't think is right? Geoff
  9. Geoff Keyes

    After a bit of a lay off

    Copper is the white pine of metals G
  10. Geoff Keyes

    Burner Placement

    What now?
  11. Geoff Keyes

    After a bit of a lay off

    Sure, about 10 ga, folded and hammer textured. I use copper a lot for fittings. g
  12. Geoff Keyes

    After a bit of a lay off

    Something off the bench. This is a student piece, he did the forging and much of the grinding, I finished it up for him. BTW, this is sort of a new class model for me, aimed at people who want to try out forging, and take something home after, but are not really intending to be a knife maker. This way students can get their feet wet, but not have to develop the longer term skills, if they want more, I've got more. Copper, 1080 6.5" closed (to the end of the tab) 8.5 open Geoff
  13. Geoff Keyes

    Sanding Belts

    These are not the best quality belts, but they are good enough for most things, particularly when you're starting out. And check out the buy 12, get 12 offer. I don't like their 36 and 60 for steel (I like ceramics much better) but again, for a beginner, it's a good value, and they are great for soft stuff like wood and bone. https://www.industrialabrasives.com/industrial-abrasives-sanding-belts-everlast-aluminum-oxide-sanding-belts-c-73_132.html?zenid=916n2116a400s54j93mj0oce41 Geoff
  14. Geoff Keyes


    It looks like I was right about the shaft being a forming surface. Apparently there was a big holder that would take the ends of the T so you could use the shank, plus the top. This one is now on it's way to a friend who is in need of a portable (kinda portable) anvil. A lot of stuff was made on anvils not a lot different from this one. Geoff
  15. Geoff Keyes


    I found a couple of nice stake tools today, and this thing. The shaft is 2 1/4 square (sort of) and the top is almost 15 inches. The bottom of the shaft has an odd angled shape and the shaft is shaped like a D. What the heck is it? It's solid, 100lbs + and the top of the T is nice and flat. I'd call it a stake anvil except most of the stake anvils I've seen have a spike and collar on the bottom. 37 1/2 x 14 3/4 x 2 1/4 Anyone? Geoff