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I'm looking to buy some pure Iron sheet, 1.5mm, but I'm having a hard time finding a supplier on this side of the pond. has anyone heard of anyone selling pure iron sheet in North America?

any advise is much appreciated!

I know sam got a hold of some, might want to send him a pm.

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I just have a couple pieces of flat bar. Methinks Jake is getting into vessels?

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If it is scabbard size pure iron could you stack a few bars, weld them, and then forge them out to a wide stock that can be used for the scabbard? If there isn't a good source for sheet then maybe that could work well? Just a thought.

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Jake

I'm not sure if either of these are still around .... I didn't take the time to check.... the first one I have never delt with

The wagner companies

P.O.Box 423

Butler , WI 53007-0423

WWW.pureironsource.com

E-mail info@mailwagner.com phone 888 234 6914

 

I got a postcard from them... they only mention bar stock on the card...

 

 

these guys I have bought from... It was at least 5 years ago.... I got bar stock from them but the catologe they sent me has sheet

.059 inches x 39 inches x 79 inches they list the same size in tow other thicknesses .078 & .118 .....

 

Art & Metal

243 Franklin st. Box 390

Hanson Ma. 02341

 

WWW.artandmetal.com E-mail... snash@artandmetal.com phone 781 294 4446

 

 

I hope they are still there..... my supply is going to run out eventualy..... I realy like this stuff .... squishes like wrought iron but there is no slag so it is solid

 

Dick

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If you're really strapped for cash, use thermite! Line a bucket with concrete and leave a hole in the bottom (~2" dia.), put a mold underneath (clay/graphite/etc), and let 'er rip. It will bead and solidify without spreading nicely into the entire mold like water would, but a little hammering should bring you to the same end.

 

If you're going for authenticity, why buy sheet metal? The origins were no doubt hand-forged from ingots or bar stock.

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Getting a little OT here, but thermite in concrete? Really? Have you tried this? I'd be very worried about safety. Concrete spalls at much lower temperatures than those created by thermite.

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Hi Jake

 

justa thought... maybe if you could get some of that pure powder iron ...or that armco pure iron powder...or

http://www.hoeganaes.com/

put it in a can and forgeweld it.. maybe that would be somewhat similar..

 

or not :unsure:

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Jake, if you wouold like to try the stacking billets idea, I imagine you could get enough with 3 or 4 pieces of the 1/4x1 flat bar I have, in which case we could no doubt work out a deal.

Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots

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Hi guys,

thanks for all the suggestions! sorry for dropping this thread, I've been laid up in bed on codeine after a painful tooth extraction on monday :unsure::ph34r:

Ric has very kindly offered to roll some out for me. I had been in the process of forging out wrought Iron (I got it down to 3mm), but without a rolling mill it was getting to be a bit too labour intensive for cost effectiveness.

Thanks again everyone!

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  • 3 years later...

Reviving this thread. I am seeking supply of 1.5mm pure iron. I need a fair bit... maybe 100kg or more.

I found a place in Europe that's got it: http://www.angele-shop.com/catalog/index.php?cName=pure-iron-pure-iron-sheets

But was hoping to find a domestic source and save a bit on shipping.

 

The project?

Have you heard of Game of Thrones? I am the licensee with George R.R. Martin to make fantasy coins for his realm. We forged an agreement back in 2003 when George's books were still rather obscure and this project has long been a very small-time thing. But... now that George has hit Best-Seller lists AND the series is now being flimed and released as an HBO series, it is suddenly popular. A key focal point of the story revolves around an iron coin received by a young lady, Arya Stark. She assumes that it is of little value, but as it turns out, it is a recognition token for a secretive guild of assassins. In 2010 I engaged Greg Franck-Weiby to engrave some dies for me, and started making this coin. I had obtained a supply of about 100 lb of PURE IRON from Art & Metal Co back in 2002, and still had some left after a series of other projects. It is the PERFECT material for doing this!! I made 400 in the first round... used a commercial blueing solution on them... and coated them in pastewax for protection. They have been popular with fans of the GAME OF THRONES books, but I was not particularly concerned about my metal supply as they were selling just here and there. Suddenly just in the last few weeks (and I'm not sure what's happened actually) I am being flooded with orders. I just finished another 500 coins about a week ago and that batch is already half gone! Now I'm freaking out about being able to continue making these! I punch the blanks at 1.00" diameter from sheet rolled to about 0.055" to 0.058" so 1.5mm sheet would be ideal, I feed the punch press with 2" wide strips to get two rows, staggered. (just to be safe and avoid clipped planchets I like to cut the strips slightly overwide... about 2.060") Then furnace anneal and tumble-clean for a day before cold-striking on my Waterbury Farrel 150-ton knuckle press. Surprisingly they have a very pleasant "ring" to them when flipped.

 

I've never had a product go "viral" before! It's really exciting but scary. I want to crank the heck out of these things while they're hot. The scene in which the coin is featured has not even aired yet, so the sales thus far are just based on book readers. When that part airs I fear there will be yet another uptick in interest. I'm rolling and punching the last of my supply now... maybe another 800 coins-worth. After that... ???

 

I will pursue the Angele Shop supply and ship in from Germany if needed. I see alibaba ads from Chinese manufacturers, but for some reason I just can't bear to buy from there.

 

Any supplies available on these shores?

 

email me: maringer at arkansas dot net

 

Thanx!

 

Tom Maringer

Shire Post Mint

2692 Powell St

Springdale Arkansas, 72764

 

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Tom, would you be able to roll it down from flat bar in 1/4" thick by 1"? There's some pure iron here in MD, if you would like I can see about tracking some down.

Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots

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Tom, would you be able to roll it down from flat bar in 1/4" thick by 1"? There's some pure iron here in MD, if you would like I can see about tracking some down.

Hi Sam:

Thanks for replying! In desperation I could and would do that. The blanks are a full 1" diameter through about 0.056", so it would have to be cross-rolled some to get enough width to punch cleanly. I can get better yield from a 2" wide bar because I can stagger the punchings side to side. The ideal would be .060" by sightly more than 2" wide.

 

I am in communication with a place in Germany, http://www.angele-shop.com/catalog/index.php?cName=pure-iron-pure-iron-sheets that has got 1.5mm stock in hand. If the shipping is not too terribly outrageous I'll be able to get stuff very close to the final thickness. If for some reason that connection falls-through I will talk to you!

 

Thanks!

Tom

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I finally got 75kg of the 1.5mm stock in hand from Angele. Wow... I had no idea the customs would be such a big freaking deal! I had to hire a customs broker (they charge $160 for this) just to pay the duty ($30) and get the thing released from the bonded warehouse. What a hassle! But at least I've got it now. Nice looking material, bright and clean. So it can be done if you want it bad enough!

 

Next time I will see about getting them to break the order down into 25kg packages and send them via Fedex.... might be way cheaper than going air-freight on a 200 pound package.

 

Tom

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What a hassle! I sure wish there was a stateside solution to this. I'm wondering if there were enough of us interested... maybe we can get a bulk shipment as a group? I would love, love, love to have a bunch of pure iron sheet to work with .....

 

Some folks on Blade Forums recently did a similar thing with some kind of whizbang alloy only available overseas.....

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I'm accumulating quite a supply of scrap pure-iron. It's basically strips that are full of holes from where I punched my coin blanks. It's not much use except as tiny little pieces, or perhaps as a cupola feed stock so you can have total control of the resulting alloy by starting with pure stuff. I also shear strips off the edge sometimes to use as welding filler. (when I'm out of copper coated rod)

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