Sam Salvati Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Here is some teaser pictures. Forged 1095, going to get the full treatment with possibly a proffessional polish. Have to work out a new quench tank so I can quench in the park's, but spine down as I hear that negates the reverse curve a bit. Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah M Legel Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 The blade seems a bit wide, but definitely awesome! Are you going to take pictures throughout your process so we can see what you do? Speaking of which, how is the leaf blade hilt project coming along? Karate ObsessionWasteland LeatherworkThe Wasteland Crow Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Madigan Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Are you planning to use clay on the spine and do a spine first quench? I'm not familiar with oil quench on big blades, but I thought it was the difference in the quench time/temperature curve that makes negative sori. But I'm interested to see what happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil gagnon Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 looking good Sam, nice and beefy too. Keep us posted "One who is samurai must before all things" Keep constantly in mind, by day and by night. the fact that he has to die... -Dai Doji Yuzon- 16th Century http://sites.google.com/site/canadianliveblade/home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted August 28, 2009 Author Share Posted August 28, 2009 Noah, the leaf blade project is sort of on hold until I figure out what to do with the pommel. The blade is only about 1 1/8" wide at the base and 1" even at the tip, 3/8ths thick at the base tapering to a hair under 1/4, this blade is for kabutowari Tox, I will be putting in the curvature before heat treating, and will be claying it up traditionally and quenching spine down in oil. The curvature when quenching in water is formed when the edge starts making martensite and expanding while the spine is still austenite (and soft). I am interested to see what happens too! I have no idea what will happen, when I was doing the japanese type blades with John we always brine quenched. Thanks Neil! Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah M Legel Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 My vote on the leaf-blade pommel is to do an Irish hand-and-a-half style ring pommel because, for one, you can forge it rather than cast it, and two, I think it would look good with the open rings on the guard. Just my input As far as this sword goes, it will make a fine helmet cutter! Are you going to give it the full traditional treatment or do something a little more modern (or grungy--I'm fond of grungy )? Karate ObsessionWasteland LeatherworkThe Wasteland Crow Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 Linky no worky. But I understand the type of pommel, still not jumping out at me. I was thinking maybe a set of rams horn type scrolls rolled up like on Mike Lambiase's Ramsword. If everything goes right, I will be making a full set of fuchi, kashira, tsuba, seppa, maybe a habaki all in my own sort of style, but clean work no hammer finish. Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Looking Great Sam! I hope you keep us updated on it. Also, I hope you don't have the same luck I have with 1095! I have a GREAT failure rate with the stuff drives me crazy! Any special way you'll prep yourself for the quench? Who; me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Sam I am loking forward to this blade, and I am really interested in the spine first quench? Like Toxonix I want to know how the oil affects the sori in either a negative way or positive way or if it affects it any at all. And have you thought about a theme for this blade. I myself am giving up on trying to do fittings at all, and that goes for Shirasaya. So I hope you take lots of pictures for us. John W Smithwww.smith-forge.orgFire and wind come from the sky, from the gods of the sky. But Crom is your god, Crom and he lives in the earth. Once, giants lived in the Earth, Conan. And in the darkness of chaos, they fooled Crom, and they took from him the enigma of steel. Crom was angered. And the Earth shook. Fire and wind struck down these giants, and they threw their bodies into the waters, but in their rage, the gods forgot the secret of steel and left it on the battlefield. We who found it are just men. Not gods. Not giants. Just men. The secret of steel has always carried with it a mystery. You must learn its riddle, Conan. You must learn its discipline. For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men, not women, not beasts.[Points to sword]This you can trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 (edited) Willie, THANKS BIGTIME! I had some good luck with the "cleaver/razor" that I hope will repeat itself this time. I think I will smoke alot of cigarettes before the quench hehe, but no meditating under a waterfall John, thanks. Supposedly if you quench spine down into oil (park's #50) it will not get any reverse curve, I will have to see but I have that info on good authority. I will induce the curve I want for the final blade roughly, and let it do it's thing. As for a theme, who knows. Edited September 1, 2009 by Sam Salvati Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 Water to oil marquenched this one today, turned out GREAT! Just have some side to side warp and a little bit of twist, but an AWESOME hamon and great sori, 7/8". Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah M Legel Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 And we don't have pics yet because...? Karate ObsessionWasteland LeatherworkThe Wasteland Crow Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 http://www.facebook.com/v/136210236228 There's a video! Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadid Askarian Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Fixed Noah's link, Sam. Here it is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 Sadid, thanks! Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah M Legel Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Thanks Sadid! And the video is cool, Sam--you'll have to hurry up and straighten and polish that bad boy now! Karate ObsessionWasteland LeatherworkThe Wasteland Crow Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenon Rain. Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Nice work Sam. I love the guard on your leaf blade too. If you don't mind me asking, how do you straighten a blade after quench? any trick to it or just hammer and twist it straight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 Hammering is probably the dumbest thing you could do! Work it nice and slow with straightening jigs is the only thing I have ever done. Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil gagnon Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 I am glad it survived the quench Sam.Do you have any pics. "One who is samurai must before all things" Keep constantly in mind, by day and by night. the fact that he has to die... -Dai Doji Yuzon- 16th Century http://sites.google.com/site/canadianliveblade/home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john marcus Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Hammering is probably the dumbest thing you could do! Work it nice and slow with straightening jigs is the only thing I have ever done. small brass hammer on a tree stump.........slow and careful and very japanese infinite edge cutlery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenon Rain. Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Hammering is probably the dumbest thing you could do! Work it nice and slow with straightening jigs is the only thing I have ever done. flattering.. was just curious as to whether you did the copper block spot reheat that was used for spine adjustment on katana, which did involve hammering however dumb it may be. thanks for the info though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Bray Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I believe the hot copper block is used for adjusting the sori, not for adjusting warping. I also believe Sam was just being brash and not rude. An untempered sword is going to be brittle so hitting it with a steel hammer should be done with care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Lee is correct, the copper block is used for adjusting sori, there is wooden jigs used for straightening. Let me clarify, I am firmly of the opinion that hitting a sword with a hammer if it is untempered is probably the dumbest thing you could do, depending on steel. Maybe could get away with it with a steel that doesn't really get screaming hard like 1050, but certainly not with 1095. Neil, i'll snag some pictures tomorrow, going to make up some straightening jigs. If I cannot straighten it, I will reheatreat it. It's about 3/8" thick at the base, tapering to 1/4" at the yokote. Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 (edited) OK here is some pictures. Edited September 25, 2009 by Sam Salvati Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Bray Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Yummy. I like bananas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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