KPeacock Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I was at the MN state fair over the weekend and while wandering around the product demonstrations I saw a file with about 50 holes drilled in it. I walked over to investigate and was amazed at the set of drill bits this sales guy was demonstrating. He drilled through ceramic tile, keystone retaining wall block, a brick, then straight through a nicholson file, he then drilled into a 4"x4" and flexed the bit to about 15° of deflection to show it's break resistance. The bit got hot enough to readily burn sideways through the wood. The guy immediately drilled through an automotive brake rotor while the bit was still hot. I typicaly don't fall for the sales pitches, but after fighting to drill the tang on my last knife I've been putting off a set of carbide bits. Seeing these in action was pretty amazing. They come with lifetime replacement if they wear out or break. You just send the pieces in to them and they will ship you a new bit, so you're only out 44cents. I don't work for these guys, or know anyone that works for them, but I'm guessing other folks have had a hard time drilling through knife steels as well. The 13 piece set was $90 at the fair. I think normal retail is a bit higher, but I've ruined about $100 in drill bits in the last year anyhow. I figure these will pay off in the long run. Here is a picture of a new nicholson file that I drilled through so you can get a visual of it. http://www.rodmanandcoinc.com/rodmanandcoinc.com/item04c5-2.html?UCIDs=1307321%7C1307323&PRID=1492961 Have you ever thought about the life of steel? It's interesting to think that you can control the fate of a piece of metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 W O W Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclemike13 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 (edited) So, ...... What is the name of the company and where does one get some of these? Michael Oops ... guess I should have read the whole post Edited August 31, 2009 by Unclemike13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclemike13 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I've heard of these at sometime in the past. Guess I'll have to check 'em out. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPeacock Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 I've heard of these at sometime in the past. Guess I'll have to check 'em out. Michael I vaguely remember hearing of the company name a few years ago, but I never really looked into them. I simply hadn't found the need for crazy drill bits. After making ym first full tank knife that was pinned, I quickly realized my set of cheap drill bits was not up to the task. For others who missed the info, The company is "Rodman and Company, Inc" and their site can be viewed at www.rodmanandcoinc.com I was also impressed with the rod saw. The gentleman at the demo effortlessly cut through ceramic tile. Since the rod saw is circular, it can cut in any direction. Curvilinear lines seemed very easy to cut. I suppose this would work well for cutting hard firebricks. Have you ever thought about the life of steel? It's interesting to think that you can control the fate of a piece of metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim92 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 (edited) Hi Kpeacock, Do you remember what building they were selling these bits in? Because I have 4-H Judging next weekend and I really need a set of good drill bits. Thanks, Tim Edited August 31, 2009 by Tim92 Knife Prayer by Morris Herring "Heavenly Father, Thank you for my Knife Family. Help me, that they would see Jesus in me. Forge me into a caring person that would be a good witness. Sharpen me, to cut all sin from my life. Guard me, from saying the wrong thing, that I might not offend or hurt someone's feelings and lose my witness to them. Father, let me be able to Handle all trials and tribulations that come my way. Finally, Father, let me help Sheathe lost souls into your Fold. Father, let me use my craft to be a witness and to point the way that the unsaved might follow our Glorious Jesus. Amen." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPeacock Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Tim, I sure do. If you head from the animal area towards the East along Underwood St. it's just a hundred feet (give or take) past the infamous "pork chop on a stick" tyrailer on your right. The building is something dairy related. "Dairy barn," "Dairy depot," Dairy information station" or something similar. If you head in the North facing door you'll be walking straight towards a "Flitz" demonstration. Take 90° right (pointed towards the Mills Fleet Farm display) and then a quick 90° left. About a dozen paces at 45° to your left you'll see the display for it. Definately watch the sales pitch. It's pretty amazing. The set retails for $130, but they are selling it for $90. If you pay full retail, they give you the round saw, a few different reciprocating saw blades, the sharpening stone, and a pretty neat vice/clamp that can be used for securing drills to a work bench. If it were up to me, I'd have spent the $130 for the whole shooting match, but the wife was with me and she calls the shots. After seeing this display, you're going to be amazed. Have you ever thought about the life of steel? It's interesting to think that you can control the fate of a piece of metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim92 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I will definitly check the demo out and thank you very much for the directions! -Tim Knife Prayer by Morris Herring "Heavenly Father, Thank you for my Knife Family. Help me, that they would see Jesus in me. Forge me into a caring person that would be a good witness. Sharpen me, to cut all sin from my life. Guard me, from saying the wrong thing, that I might not offend or hurt someone's feelings and lose my witness to them. Father, let me be able to Handle all trials and tribulations that come my way. Finally, Father, let me help Sheathe lost souls into your Fold. Father, let me use my craft to be a witness and to point the way that the unsaved might follow our Glorious Jesus. Amen." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David D. Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 That is pretty freakin awesome. I will definitely be pickin up a set. Thanks for sharing! I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend" J.R.R. Tolkien www.CedarloreForge.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Wolfe Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 That is pretty freakin awesome. I will definitely be pickin up a set. Thanks for sharing! They display at a lot of outdoor shows. At least a Co. like them. I've used them for years and love them.Don't believe they were quite that expensive. Inflation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john marcus Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 i just ordered two 1/2 inch bits.... got some rocks to drill........will report back asap. infinite edge cutlery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPeacock Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Cost increase might be due to inflation, or overhead costs, or simple desire to make money. either way, I thought it was enough of a deal to buy. John, You bought two? Hoe many rocks do you have to drill? They'll send you a new one of you wear out the old one. I am inteested in hearing how they work for you. Have you ever thought about the life of steel? It's interesting to think that you can control the fate of a piece of metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john marcus Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 (edited) Cost increase might be due to inflation, or overhead costs, or simple desire to make money. either way, I thought it was enough of a deal to buy. John, You bought two? How many rocks do you have to drill? They'll send you a new one of you wear out the old one. I am inteested in hearing how they work for you. i have many my wife the artist ( http://www.metal-sculptures.com/ ) has taken a fancy to them and they need holes !!! Edited August 31, 2009 by john marcus infinite edge cutlery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeO Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Does anyone know if these have a UK seller, no mention of sell through on their site, also, Bosch, have a new line of drills that are multi for stone steel,ceramic etc, they wouldnt be the same would they,retail is about £16-20.00. 5 drill bits in a case, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john marcus Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 well i got two 1/2 inch drill bits. the first i tried on a river rock at 1200 rpm ( recommended speed ) with heavy water cooling........it made a small dent in the rock but certainly didnt drill. the second i tried a reduced rpm on the smooth part of a file..... it drilled in about 1/10 inch and seemed to quit......i increased the feed pressure and the file broke. so far i am not impressed.........maybe someone else will have different results infinite edge cutlery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim92 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 (edited) Well, after asking for these bits for a birthday present from my parents, they agreed to go look at the demo. My Dad was so impressed that he not only got a whole package set for me/him(bits are mine the rest is his), but also got a set for my brother as well. And KPeacock that demo was really amazing! When he smashed the drill down onto the plate I couldn't believe that the bit didn't shatter! ~Edit~ John, I didn't see your post before I posted but I just went down and easily drilled through a 1/4" file... so mine work well. Edited September 7, 2009 by Tim92 Knife Prayer by Morris Herring "Heavenly Father, Thank you for my Knife Family. Help me, that they would see Jesus in me. Forge me into a caring person that would be a good witness. Sharpen me, to cut all sin from my life. Guard me, from saying the wrong thing, that I might not offend or hurt someone's feelings and lose my witness to them. Father, let me be able to Handle all trials and tribulations that come my way. Finally, Father, let me help Sheathe lost souls into your Fold. Father, let me use my craft to be a witness and to point the way that the unsaved might follow our Glorious Jesus. Amen." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john marcus Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 great !! 1/2 inch is pretty big for file drilling....... love to hear future reports !! infinite edge cutlery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Madigan Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Actual results may vary? I have a set of China made carbide tipped bits. Never tried drilling a file. Maybe it's like drilling brake rotors. keeps the file from heating up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPeacock Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 Tim, Glad you got a chance to see them in action. As I said, I'm not one to be easily "shamm-wowed" into buying something. The guy selling these could have easily sold them to me with nothing more than showing the bit drill right through that file. The rest of the demo was just icing on the cake. I hope they work well for you. Have you ever thought about the life of steel? It's interesting to think that you can control the fate of a piece of metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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