Bruce Barnett Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Gday all, Does anybody use or have used Castrol's Iloquench 395 quenching oil. It is supposedly a 9-11 sec oil and appears to be the only "quickish" quenchant available in Australia. Cheers Bruce Barnett Custom Knives www.barnettcustomknives.com Australian Knifemakers Guild Secretary/Treasurer American Bladesmith Society Apprentice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb0fhp Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Gday all, Does anybody use or have used Castrol's Iloquench 395 quenching oil. It is supposedly a 9-11 sec oil and appears to be the only "quickish" quenchant available in Australia. Cheers Bruce There are a variety of fast quench oils available in Austrailia - look at Houghton K. YOu could probably contact a heat treater to buy some from them or you can try some local sources. D. Scott MacKenzie, PhD Heat Treating (Aluminum and Steel) Quenching (Water, Polymer, Oil, Salt and Mar-Tempering) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Barnett Posted November 26, 2010 Author Share Posted November 26, 2010 There are a variety of fast quench oils available in Austrailia - look at Houghton K. YOu could probably contact a heat treater to buy some from them or you can try some local sources. Been there done that. No body was interested in selling 5-10 galls of a quench oil, not even Houghton. The Castrol appears to work fine. Barnett Custom Knives www.barnettcustomknives.com Australian Knifemakers Guild Secretary/Treasurer American Bladesmith Society Apprentice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragoncutlery Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 (edited) canola oil might be avalible there i have a hardness tester and frequently test to destruction and have been using it for years on my carbon steel and now on my air hardening stainless as well or some ppl use straight hydrolic oil im sure you can get that in aus Edited November 26, 2010 by dragoncutlery Brandon Sawisch bladesmith eagles may soar but weasels don't get sucked in to jet engines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb0fhp Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Been there done that. No body was interested in selling 5-10 galls of a quench oil, not even Houghton. The Castrol appears to work fine. Sorry - unfortunately, that is one of the problems. However, if you need more, you could contact a local heat treater - they may have some old oil that you may want to try. Glad you found a source. BTW, vegetable oil is good too. D. Scott MacKenzie, PhD Heat Treating (Aluminum and Steel) Quenching (Water, Polymer, Oil, Salt and Mar-Tempering) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Krall Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Sorry - unfortunately, that is one of the problems. However, if you need more, you could contact a local heat treater - they may have some old oil that you may want to try. Glad you found a source. BTW, vegetable oil is good too. Scott, Do you have a rough relationship on the longevity difference between canola oil and commercial quench oils (like Houghto-quench "K", for instance)? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb0fhp Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Scott, Do you have a rough relationship on the longevity difference between canola oil and commercial quench oils (like Houghto-quench "K", for instance)? Mike It all depends on how hard you abuse them. As a general rule the oil would go rancid before it would not achieve metallurgical properties. A mineral oil, properly taken care of will last a very long time. Filter it occasionally using a good quality filter and mineral oil will last a long time. Even if it does get very oxidized, a mineral oil will tend to get faster because the shellac layer on the part. Vegetable oil would do the same thing. Take care of it and they will both last - but I can't quantify how long each will last as it is so dependent on a whole bunch of things. But in general I would suspect that the mineral oil would last longer. D. Scott MacKenzie, PhD Heat Treating (Aluminum and Steel) Quenching (Water, Polymer, Oil, Salt and Mar-Tempering) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragoncutlery Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 im still getting good readings from my canola and its been in the bucket for 3-4 years i only hobbie blade smith these days but for the cost even if it went bad its real cheep to go to the store and get some more Brandon Sawisch bladesmith eagles may soar but weasels don't get sucked in to jet engines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Barnett Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Just letting you guys know that the Illoquench 395 works just fine on 5160 & 52100. I just recently did 2 ABS test blades in 5160 and successfully passed the ABS JS performance test with both of them, one a practice run at home and the second at Bill Burkes in Nov before the Boise Rocky Mountain Knife show. Also my 52100 blades just keep on cuttin on rope . Cheers Bruce Barnett Custom Knives www.barnettcustomknives.com Australian Knifemakers Guild Secretary/Treasurer American Bladesmith Society Apprentice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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