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i only recently discovered bell dirks. i'd never even heard of them, before seeing some of the topics on here. the design struck me as interesting. different from pretty much anything else. since i've been working on a couple massive chopping commissions, i wanted to do something slender and pointy. so here is my feeble attempt. its still a work in progress, and since i've never really done one of those before either i thought i'd try a double helping of new.

 

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the blade is some 1/8" thick alabama damascus that i forged some into the the right dimensions and close to the right shape before final grinding. here it is basically finished, minus a final etch and polish. my initial sketch can be seen on the paper it's sitting on.

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the handle is what im told is ostrich bone and a solid brass bolster. it's not exactly a bell dirk, so it isnt integral and im not using all silver.

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grinding to the right dimensions, allowing extra material for the windowpanes.

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a bad picture of one of the panes filed closer to shape.

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the top window pane

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another of the side windowpanes.

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another dry fit to show the basic shape.

 

sorry about the abismal pics, they were all taken with my phone as i worked. the buttplate will be some cutouts of a silver platter, soldered together.

thanks for looking :D

jared Z.

 

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YEaH!!!! rock on Jared!

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nice.

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thanks you guys! this is a serious challenge, getting the windowpanes crisp and the flats flat is not easy.

 

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handle ground to shape up to 320grit and file work started. after i get the filework roughed in, i'll start on the buttcap

jared Z.

 

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most of the rough filework is done and i got the buttcap started. i'm going to solder the silver together and then engrave it.

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what kind of tool should i use for engraving? ive never actually tried before. :rolleyes:

jared Z.

 

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a couple more horrible pictures to show the filework a little bit better.

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jared Z.

 

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I'm really excited about you posting again. Its been a while ^_^. I can't wait to see this thing done. Did you forge your own damascus?

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Rockin' right on, Dude! B)

 

Really nice work on the handle carving. As for the engraving, if you've never used an actual graver you may want to consider just using chasing tools, which are basically dull chisels hammered straight down into the work rather than sharp gravers that are pushed through the work. It's a LOT easier to chase than to engrave if you haven't been shown how to sharpen and use a graver. That's a very hard thing to explain in writing, too. Check out the Lindsay engraving forums, and Sam Alfano's tips and tricks for hand engraving if you really want to try it. See the posts here and in the tools and tooling subforum by Charles Wu for chasing tools, he did a really good job showing the tools and how to use them.

 

Another hint: Before you start hammering on that silver, be sure it's completely filled with some kind of hard-ish backing, like pitch or epoxy. If you leave a hollow underneath it'll dent when you try to engrave on it.

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thanks for the tips and encouragement guys! i'll definitely check out that forum. :lol:

 

odds are i'll have the whole thing filled with epoxy before i start finish work on it.

jared Z.

 

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hey - that is really coming along. You are doing good at a really challenging task. nice one.

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thanks! got a little more done on it tonight, namely soldering (badly) the buttcap together and rough grinding it flush with the flats of the handle.

 

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i got a new phone, so the pics are slightly better this time i hope.

jared Z.

 

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  • 1 year later...

Wow, It's been a year and a half. I'm terribly sorry about my disappearance, life managed to butt its ugly head into my knifemaking time. <_< I made a small mistake gluing the handle on before polishing the front of the bolster, which took the wind out of my sails for a while as well.

 

Anyways, I finally decided to pick it back up and finish it :D

 

In the 3 days it took me to finish this I:

polished the front of the bolster as best I could with the blade in the way

cleaned and re-etched the blade

cleaned up the edges of the handle as best I could, there's still some wobble I couldnt get out

Polished the bone and the bolster

The horribly fit buttcap turned out to be silver plated steel, so I opted for an acid resist etch

Polished everything again and wicked some wood stain into the cracks and filework to give it some depth

 

The Dimensions are:

Blade - 5 5/8"

Handle - 4 1/4"

OAL - 9 7/8"

The handle tapers from front to back going from 3/4" to 7/8" at the buttcap

 

All in all I'm not 100% happy with this piece. It's chock full of flaws and shortcomings, but it's a good indicator of where my skills are now, and it was a good challenge.

 

Sorry about the bad pictures, these are taken with yet a different phone. I'll have a buddy of mine take some real pictures of it

 

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Once again, sorry about the ridiculous delay. Thanks for looking, I'd love some critiques :D

jared Z.

 

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Wow, I'd forgotten about that...

 

You captured the look pretty well! You know the obvious stuff, but the one thing that sticks out at me is that the handle is about twice as thick as it ought to be, but I know you were limited by the material. Plus, you've actually finished one, so you're one up on me! :lol:

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