• Announcements

    • Alan Longmire

      IMPORTANT Registration rules   02/12/2017

      Use your real name or you will NOT get in.  No aliases or nicknames, no numerals in your name. Do not use the words knives, blades, swords, forge, smith (unless that is your name of course) etc. We are all bladesmiths and knifemakers here.  If you feel you need an exception or are having difficulty registering, send a personal email to the forum registrar here.  
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
smitty

O-Sa Tanto (Samonji)

7 posts in this topic

Trying to get more info on this.

IMG_4165sm.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Some more photos would be helpful; is it signed on the handle? It looks pretty old and authentic.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A good picture from the tip also from the tang (nakago) will be helpful.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Presumably it is signed O-Sa by the title - that is a big name.

Percentage of gimei(fake signature) blades is very high so with a name like yours, it's generally safe to assume the name is fake.

 

I hope it won't be...

 

Forums may give you an idea, but for a name like O-Sa, if the signature and blade work is close, it needs to go to shinsa. No one will be able to say for certain online.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here are a few more pics

IMG_6711sm.jpg

tantosm.jpg

IMG_4220sm.jpg

IMG_6723sm.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Reading up on O-Sa and the Samonji school, your blade certainly shows attributes that corroborate the signature.

The pointy boshi and long turn back being the most obvious.

The nakago looks a little too 'modern'(though still old, not old enough) but that could just be me.

The red rust inside the chisel strokes always makes me suspicious, too.

My view would be - possibly, but more than likely gimei. Certain similarities would have me exploring further research, though.

It's probably worth taking along to one of the sword shows in the States; google Token kai and it should give you plenty of info. They may have shinsa at some of those events or they'll be able to tell if it's worth sending to shinsa in Japan.

 

Also worth posting your blade here - http://www.nihontomessageboard.com/ - for more and better opinions than mine.

I couldn't find the kanji that you've pictured on the menuki(?)in my books - it's probably slightly stylised to suit the artist. The guys at NMB can probably help with that.

 

Good info on O-Sa:

http://www.nihonto.com/abtartchikuzensa.html

http://www.sho-shin.com/sai2.htm

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Reading up on O-Sa and the Samonji school, your blade certainly shows attributes that corroborate the signature.

The pointy boshi and long turn back being the most obvious.

The nakago looks a little too 'modern'(though still old, not old enough) but that could just be me.

The red rust inside the chisel strokes always makes me suspicious, too.

My view would be - possibly, but more than likely gimei. Certain similarities would have me exploring further research, though.

It's probably worth taking along to one of the sword shows in the States; google Token kai and it should give you plenty of info. They may have shinsa at some of those events or they'll be able to tell if it's worth sending to shinsa in Japan.

 

Also worth posting your blade here - http://www.nihontomessageboard.com/ - for more and better opinions than mine.

I couldn't find the kanji that you've pictured on the menuki(?)in my books - it's probably slightly stylised to suit the artist. The guys at NMB can probably help with that.

 

Good info on O-Sa:

http://www.nihonto.com/abtartchikuzensa.html

http://www.sho-shin.com/sai2.htm

 

 

Thank You for the info and links. The rust is not as vibrant in person,the camera makes it a little more red than it really is...I will do some more research.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0