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Hey there everyone, I've drawn up the idea I've had for a long time for a Tolkien inspired knife, Scatha's Tooth.

 

here's the background on it from wikipedia:

 

Scatha was a mighty "long-worm" of the Grey Mountains, little is known of Scatha except that he was slain by Fram son of Frumgar (an ancestor of Eorl the Young) in the early days of the Éothéod.

After slaying Scatha, Fram's ownership of his recovered hoard was then disputed by the Dwarves of that region. Fram rebuked this claim, sending them instead Scatha's teeth, with the words, "Jewels such as these you will not match in your treasuries, for they are hard to come by." This led to his death in a feud with the Dwarves, and however the dispute was resolved, Fram's descendants "brought few good tales from the north of that folk" (from The Lord of the Rings).

 

so when reading this, it set me to thinking that even if the dwarves didn't like the teeth as a gift, they would probably use it anyway to make something with. probably forge the teeth down (assuming the teeth could be forged) into a knife/short sword to slay Fram with out of irony.

 

attached is a sketch of the blade i plan to make for the KITH. any suggestions, comments, concerns would be greatly appreciated.

 

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Casey W Daniel

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Cool.

 

Which one is it, the bottom design or the top one that's upside down?

 

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i was trying to decide between the two blade shapes, but i was leaning towards the bottom blade. if anyone has suggestions on a better blade shape, or handle type i would love to hear it.

i only need 3 things to be happy: my girlfriend, my forge, and fruit juice.

 

Casey W Daniel

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also i gotta have more cowbell.

 

Nice.

 

LOL

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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly." -- Theodore Roosevelt

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idetited by Jacques Delfosse

 

oops! :wacko:

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My vote goes to the one on top. It feels more "Tolkein-ish" (and I don't mean Peter Lyon-ish).

 

I've never done a hamon before, but a nice toothy pattern would be a pretty nifty addition.

He that will a good edge win must forge thick, and grind thin.

-Colin Sampson

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Ok, I've updated both designs, and put a little more thought into the top design. tell me what you think of each.

 

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Casey W Daniel

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I remember reading somewhere, sometime, that early drafts of what became the Silmarillion had the dragons being mechanical, so forging the teeth would make sense from that standpoint.

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ok i did some forging today, and i worked the steel down to the thickness i'd like. it's about 20 inches total, before i've worked on the tang, so the blade will probably be about 15-16 inches.

 

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i've aquired a length of copper pipe that i'll melt down with aluminum for the fittings. any suggestions on the best way to get a dark bronze finish without access to liver of sulfur?

i only need 3 things to be happy: my girlfriend, my forge, and fruit juice.

 

Casey W Daniel

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i've run into a problem, i have 3 cracks (less than 1/16th of an inch) along the spine. is there any solution to this, or should i start over on fresh stock?

i only need 3 things to be happy: my girlfriend, my forge, and fruit juice.

 

Casey W Daniel

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Unless they grind out (and survive a stress test), I would start over again. That's the cold, hard truth of it. :(

He that will a good edge win must forge thick, and grind thin.

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i think you're right, i wouldn't want to give someone a flawed blade and i don't think i'm a good enough smith to fix it even if there is a way to do it.

i only need 3 things to be happy: my girlfriend, my forge, and fruit juice.

 

Casey W Daniel

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well i just got the second bar forged out, took longer than i like to get at it again. i hope to keep this one crack-free, we'll see how it goes.

i only need 3 things to be happy: my girlfriend, my forge, and fruit juice.

 

Casey W Daniel

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