Kip Kaiser Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 what do I rub into the carving to add contrast color. Iv been told a pitch of some type but not from any one that knew what they were talking about. Iv enjoyed reading thru the carving threads and have learned a lot for them. Thanks you Kip Kaiser A man is no better than his word! Check out the web site @ www.thekaisercustomknives.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Kaiser Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 There have been 125 views on this post Im wondering if I have asked a stupid question. I have recently had an opportunity to see some really nice antler carving. There was a nice caramel tone to the deep groves for contrast color. I would like to know how this affect is achieved. Any help would be appreciated, Thank you. Kip L. Kaiser A man is no better than his word! Check out the web site @ www.thekaisercustomknives.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Not a stupid question, there are just many many ways to go about it. Leather dye, strong tea (both of those require some sanding on the high spots afterwards), pine tar, ink, potassium permanganate, or anything you can rub on and rub off the high spots. Experiment on a scrap piece until you get something you like, and remember every piece of antler is different as far as absorption goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Kaiser Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 Not a stupid question, there are just many many ways to go about it. Leather dye, strong tea (both of those require some sanding on the high spots afterwards), pine tar, ink, potassium permanganate, or anything you can rub on and rub off the high spots. Experiment on a scrap piece until you get something you like, and remember every piece of antler is different as far as absorption goes. Thanks Alan A man is no better than his word! Check out the web site @ www.thekaisercustomknives.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petr Florianek Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Hey! i use beech tar, sometime wood stain GULLINBURSTI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hÿllyn Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 (edited) This example will show you what you can do to antler by Clive Hallam. I for one am still gobsmacked by it. http://www.followingtheironbrush.org/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=2444 I have personally only used strong solutions of black tea and potassium permanganate. Edited November 1, 2011 by Hÿllyn Grey hair and alopecia are signs of age, not of wisdom... Rósta að, maðr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Sorry Kip, I missed this one. I've had good results with leather dye. As always experiment on samples to get the right color. Jim My website and INSTAGRAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Kaiser Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 This example will show you what you can do to antler by Clive Hallam. I for one am still gobsmacked by it. http://www.followingtheironbrush.org/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=2444 I have personally only used strong solutions of black tea and potassium permanganate. Wow I would hope to be that good some day. Thanks I'v been looking for carving at that level thanks for showing that!!! Kip A man is no better than his word! Check out the web site @ www.thekaisercustomknives.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Kaiser Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 Thanks everyone now I have some things to play with, hope fully I will have some show and tell soon!!! Kip A man is no better than his word! Check out the web site @ www.thekaisercustomknives.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsterling Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Here are several resources about using potassium permanganate on antler and bone: http://followingtheironbrush.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=1701&p=16240 http://followingtheironbrush.org/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=2353&p=22734 http://followingtheironbrush.org/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=1530 http://www.thecarvingpath.net/forum/index.php?/topic/800-potassium-permanganate-on-antler/ Here is a link to my eBook (free download) about carving small scale sculpture (much in antler), with a bit on dye and stain: http://www.sterlingsculptures.com/Resources_folder/Netsuke_Book_folder/Carving_Netsuke.htm Good luck! Tom SterlingTom's Instagram Tom's FacebookSterling Sculptures Web Site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Kaiser Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 Thanks again for the add ons this forum rocks I hope some day to be a helper in stead of the one that needs. Kip Kaiser A man is no better than his word! Check out the web site @ www.thekaisercustomknives.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEzell Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I've used red mud mixed with ash on bone and was amazed at how well it worked... Don't tell anyone... George Ezell, bladesmith" How much useful knowledge is lost by the scattered forms in which it is ushered to the world! How many solitary students spend half their lives in making discoveries which had been perfected a century before their time, for want of a condensed exhibition of what is known."Buffonview some of my work RelicForge on facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Luebke Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) My wife uses tea and or coffee takes it from my stash ,when she does her carvings for me. Edited November 5, 2011 by Raymond Luebke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Norris Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 The one time I used tea to color antler, I achieved a slightly darker shade by adding a few Tablespoons of vinegar to the pan (about 8 Cups of water if memory can be trusted, not that I was measuring anything.) ~Bruce~ “All work is empty save when there is love, for work is love made visible.” Kahlil Gibran "It is easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them." - Alfred Adler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 As someone already mentioned leather dye works great. You have so many colors to choose from and leather dye can be diluted for additional color choices. I first clean the antler with alcohol to remove anything that might interfere with the dye penetrating. I use a rag to apply the dye along with q-tips for small areas. After the dye dries I have a special soft mop on a buffer that I polish the antler with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ullrich Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) These fellows are carved from elk bone. After I got them in the wood, I coated with polyurethane, let it dry. Then swabbed with some wood stain. Let it rest 15-30 minutes and then wiped off excess (easy to do since coated with poly), which left a fair amount in the recesses. Let it dry overnight then another coat or two of poly to preserve the effects. Could easily modify the above steps to make the recesses darker or lighter. I havent tried this but Bo Bergman wrote about rubbing in a mix of charcoal and ground alder bark! Edited April 11, 2012 by pullrich I have always thought that one man of tolerable abilities may work great changes, and accomplish great affairs among mankind, if he first forms a good plan.... - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Hardy Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Not a stupid question, there are just many many ways to go about it. Leather dye, strong tea (both of those require some sanding on the high spots afterwards), pine tar, ink, potassium permanganate, or anything you can rub on and rub off the high spots. Experiment on a scrap piece until you get something you like, and remember every piece of antler is different as far as absorption goes. I really wish I would have read this with a little more attention Alan because I my antler sucked up the leather dye so deep there is little of the carving left on my seax. Lesson learned!!!!!! Thanks Geoff The blacksmith and the artist reflect it in their art. They forge their creativity,closer to the heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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