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Hi all

 

I had chance to use tools of trade and one week time to forge wootz ingots.

Week is not much even I spend 10-12hours per day at forge.

Even only 4 ingots I managet to brake down to bar´s all went great, only one had some props, but

that was one site from start.

 

Some pics.

 

Wootz bars.jpg

 

I pat.jpg

 

Pat II.jpg

 

pat III.jpg

 

Pat IV.jpg

 

( notise that these just forged bars are only raw grids and etch, decarb + skale there is)

( lengths 550mm, 870mm, 1000mm + 20-35mm wide 10-12mm thick )

 

Still over 25 kg of ingots to forge down and to bars but this is start, also forgign these bars

to swords is in distant unknown future.

 

Even so Im extra happy about this sens my plans and ideas that I had before starting this pointed out to be right.

Forging, force,speed..

Rest of the ingots I will forge same way and schedule new melts whit new furnace.

 

Niko

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Hi all

 

I had chance to use tools of trade and one week time to forge wootz ingots.

Week is not much even I spend 10-12hours per day at forge.

Even only 4 ingots I managet to brake down to bar´s all went great, only one had some props, but

that was one site from start.

otise that these just forged bars are only raw grids and etch, decarb + skale there is)

( lengths 550mm, 870mm, 1000mm + 20-35mm wide 10-12mm thick )

Still over 25 kg of ingots to forge down and to bars but this is start, also forgign these bars

to swords is in distant unknown future.

Even so Im extra happy about this sens my plans and ideas that I had before starting this pointed out to be right.

Forging, force,speed..

Rest of the ingots I will forge same way and schedule new melts whit new furnace.

Niko

 

Niko,

Good to see some Wootz posting around here..,the patterns look very beautiful. Charcoal making has the tail wagging the dog around here, looking forward to getting back to forging some Wootz as well ( everything I could find on horizontal surfaces has been converted to "coupons" .

Good luck,

Jan

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Hi Niko

 

beautiful patterns in each bar !

each will tell a nice story when i becomes a sword

 

your weeks worth of work is more than my half a year ( i need a time machine :lol:

 

great stuff

Greg

 

ps.. i really like the tight elements in the bottom bars... where pattern groups together and it is very white .. its gold to me !

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Thanks Guys.

 

I think bars and patterns look ok so far.

Hoping that I can forge them out to swords like rest of the steel in corner.

Reality is that it will take time...lots.

 

Pattern is different that before and im thinking that these could be even more intersting than previous ones..saying this it

can be just opposite...this steel has mind of it own.

 

I try to get more pics how structure look at moment soon as I can.

 

 

Niko

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Hoping that I can forge them out to swords like rest of the steel in corner.

Reality is that it will take time...lots.

 

 

Looks great. Very jealous!

 

Doesn't it start to move a little bit easier once it's been worked to this degree, or is UHC (ultra-high carbon) 'wootz' always very hard under the hammer? Is it mostly the fact that you can't get it to too high a forging heat that makes this a difficult material to work?

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Those look beautiful. Nice pattern.

Ben Potter Bladesmith

 

 

It's not that I would trade my lot

Or any other man's,

Nor that I will be ashamed

Of my work torn hands-

 

For I have chosen the path I tread

Knowing it would be steep,

And I will take the joys thereof

And the consequences reap.

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Moi,

so you used grinding for getting more "moiree", like in the ladder pattern

at least this is how it looks like to me

any special x's or forms for the grinding on the raw bar? or did you use a chissel,

which would be nearer to the original way of making a ladder pattern

I think the old persian smithes did not use a powergrinder :lol:

 

hope to see more in summer

 

heippa

Jokke

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Looks great. Very jealous!

 

Doesn't it start to move a little bit easier once it's been worked to this degree, or is UHC (ultra-high carbon) 'wootz' always very hard under the hammer? Is it mostly the fact that you can't get it to too high a forging heat that makes this a difficult material to work?

 

 

Hi.

 

Thank you.

 

Yes it dose, and this material turns to super plastic soon as its grain size is small, its about same time as

the large Cm particles are braking and turning to spheroids.

Why this will take time now..its course of the reality that I dont have chance to forge at moment.

 

BR

 

Niko

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Moi,

so you used grinding for getting more "moiree", like in the ladder pattern

at least this is how it looks like to me

any special x's or forms for the grinding on the raw bar? or did you use a chissel,

which would be nearer to the original way of making a ladder pattern

I think the old persian smithes did not use a powergrinder :lol:

 

hope to see more in summer

 

heippa

 

Hi.

 

Actually all these are as I wrote raw bars after forgign.

Just fast grid and etch, ladder pattern is duo the dies of powerhammer nothing more ;)

 

 

Niko

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hmm, powerhammer marks the bars and it looks like laddering :ph34r:

so the thougt that the way of hammering the bar in different ways

without using any grinding of grooves

does lead, or may lead to different moirees

even the form of the used hammer head can make the difference then

 

this is very interesting, Niko

hope we will be able to talk about it

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Jokke

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Moro.

 

Nice group of kankia :P I know there is lots of work before you reach this point making Wootz blades ect.

I have my own studies this forging without grinding, what it causes different lines.

I use different shape hammers,different size ballheadhammers...

 

 

I hope that Niko will not dislike that I'll add my pictures here, maybe one day I start my own thread :rolleyes::P

 

I get finally my sprighammer working properly, pine tar on belt and CRC on clutch(Niko told me this wet clutch issue,thx),

now there is adjustable hit. :)

 

I found other half of cake nro.7 on the floor and get idea, forge it bar.(with newborn springhammer) I thought that I broke other half about year ago, but no,:)

 

accomplishment:

72.jpg

72closebar.jpg

400mm x 28mm x 18mm.

 

 

BR Janne The End Smile Kruunari

Do not try to forcibly, take willingly a bigger hammer.

Janne Kruunari
aka
B.Sofa


Also known as Jandaus Rahnasto
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very nice bar, gotta love it when you have the bar out to sword length... it doesn't get any better than that !

 

really like your springhammer, that is a nice little gem ! Only thing i'd do different is make a little iron stirrup to lower the foot pedal height... stepping up high like that must be difficult and off balance

 

 

good stuff

 

;)

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