Scott A. Roush Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) Just finished another rondel from W1 round stock. 18" or so on total length. On this one I wanted to go with single edge and heavy geometry for all your knightly armor piercing needs. Browned wrought iron, Gaboon ebony and steel/copper twisted wire. I will try to get some closer hilt pictures later today.. I'm still fiddling with the wire... oh the contrary wire. Edited June 29, 2012 by Scott A. Roush http://www.bigrockforge.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Christianson Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Just Think, I knew that knife when it was just a baby! Troy Allen Christianson is NOT a "Licensed Bladesmith" so you may treat his posts with the contempt they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott A. Roush Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 I was wondering you guys would recognize the shank that was laying around my shop.... http://www.bigrockforge.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Just finished another rondel from W1 round stock. 18" or so on total length. On this one I wanted to go with single edge and heavy geometry for all your knightly armor piercing needs. Browned wrought iron, Gaboon ebony and steel/copper twisted wire. I will try to get some closer hilt pictures later today.. I'm still fiddling with the wire... oh the contrary wire. I like it , congratulations. Saludos desde Mexico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Lester Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I like it, both as a historical reproduction and as a work of art. Great workmanship. On an historical note. The armor piercing aspect of a knife or even a sword is pretty much an exaggeration that originated in the Victorian era. The stout blades might have been used to stab through lighter leather or cloth armor but mostly they were needed to stab through heavy bone, such as the skull. The long blades came in handy if one found an opponent's throat exposed or a gap in the armor like around the arm hole and you needed the reach to get to the vitals. Doug HELP...I'm a twenty year old trapped in the body of an old man!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott A. Roush Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Yeah I guess I assumed that pretty much anything would be deflected by plate. But it seems the thickness would help to point to slide into a nice little exposed chink? http://www.bigrockforge.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragoncutlery Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 plate was curved which made it really difficult to penetrate but it wasn't impossible bodkin arrow heads were really good at putting holes in it i think this would give some one in plate a bad day and i have a french chef knife i made that proved to me that the skin would slow down the blade more than a set of ribs when i tested it on a deer carcass Brandon Sawisch bladesmith eagles may soar but weasels don't get sucked in to jet engines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Colwell Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 nice work, Scott. how thick is that thing? kc please visit my website http://www.professorsforge.com/ “Years ago I recognized my kinship with all living things, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on the earth. I said then and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.” E. V. Debs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Thompson Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Scott, That is a lovely blade. I really like the side profile of it. Very nice!! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Green Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) Awesome Scott! A dagger any knight would be proud of. These daggers were not meant to defeat armor. They were used to go in between the slots in your armor. In that, they likely worked quite well., But, I'll bet if I drove that sucker, full force, into your chainmail+padding, protected ribs, you would have a very bad day. Mark Edited June 29, 2012 by Mark Green Mark Green I have a way? Is that better then a plan? (cptn. Mal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDT Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I really like the brown wrought with the ebony. The whole piece is beautifully done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott A. Roush Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Thanks folks! Kevin.. it's really thick! Almost 1/2" at the guard. And it's W2.. so the radical cross-sectional geometry made for a crazy auto-hamon. But I tried to suppress how visual it would be with a higher grit finish.. There were already a little too many Japanese elements creeping in as it was! http://www.bigrockforge.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Lester Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 (edited) It's kind of hard for a knife or sword to pierce armor. Even cloth armor resists them well. But armor really can't cover everything, Henry VIII's suit of plate that he had made for the Field of Cloth meeting not withstandin, which, by the way he never wore there. Even with that, the visor could probably have been shoved back and the blade stabbed through the eye socket into the brain if the wearer was down and disabled. I wonder how many times someone came up with their blade between their opponent's legs and into their abdomen. I read of an incident where supposedly a knight was knocked forward in his saddle exposing the seat of his pants and he took a Texas heart shot from an arrow. A very undignified way to go, if you ask me . Doug Edited June 30, 2012 by Doug Lester HELP...I'm a twenty year old trapped in the body of an old man!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBranson Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 There were already a little too many Japanese elements creeping in as it was! Ha Ha... that made me laugh.. Very nice Scott. There's some neat techniques and ideas going on with this one. - Stuart www.sbransonknives.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLenaghan Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Scott that finished off nicely and looks like it would do a great job in battle, your pictures arn't doing the blade justice thought I really loved the shape of this one outta your pile of blades you had! -Michael Lenaghan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott A. Roush Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Thanks Michael... Yeah this one isn't photographing well. I'm going to shoot it again a bit this morning while the light is nice. And thanks Stuart... You laugh because you know the feeling I bet! Us cross-cultural, cross-time period makers get easily confused.... http://www.bigrockforge.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLenaghan Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Sorry Scott I wasn't meaning to say your photo's weren't good, just that the blade has a "strong presence" when you handle it and I guess a picture can't show something like that I just realized, I never asked you about taken pictures of knives while we where there... that would have been something I'd like to see! -Michael Lenaghan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Nice job, Scott! Good call on the thick and pointy, too. I must agree with Mark, no matter what your opponent was wearing, a good hard thrust with that would cause them to have a bad day if you chose the right spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott A. Roush Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Nice job, Scott! Good call on the thick and pointy, too. I must agree with Mark, no matter what your opponent was wearing, a good hard thrust with that would cause them to have a bad day if you chose the right spot. Especially when utilized in the point-down ice pick manner that I've seen in period art work! http://www.bigrockforge.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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