Kyle Johnson Posted December 31, 2004 Posted December 31, 2004 That's just beautiful and gothic and I'm impressed as hell! I really hope to be able to do that kind of work when I grow up :-) Station Master - Angel Station http://home.comcast.net/~greyangel1/AngelStation
larry harley Posted December 31, 2004 Author Posted December 31, 2004 That's just beautiful and gothic and I'm impressed as hell! Â I really hope to be able to do that kind of work when I grow up :-) thanks:)that one was fun to make what i was really tryong to do was test my adobe graphics i couldnt get the size of the p[ic of my pup right i wish i could do better pics harley
Glenn Moulton Posted December 31, 2004 Posted December 31, 2004 Hey Larry, I use this program primarily to resize along with Adobe.It's a free download. Irfanview free I like the  blade too!  Super
DFogg Posted December 31, 2004 Posted December 31, 2004 Knife photography is a tough thing to do. I keep telling myself that I am going to photograph the Point Seven setup next Blade show, but then they aren't shooting temperlines. For the web a good size is 640x480 with a file size around 50k. Keep the backgrounds simple, the more information in the picture, the larger the file. Fill the frame with the knife or crop to eliminate extra information. I shoot corner to corner to get the most knife in the frame. Don Fogg
DFogg Posted December 31, 2004 Posted December 31, 2004 Your smaller image is 80k compared to this larger one at 40k. The differences being what I noted. The software you use to work on the images can make some difference, but taking care of the basics first will really help. Look at other photos as photos. Study them, how many light sources, where is light coming from, angle of the shot, background etc. Don Fogg
Mike Blue Posted December 31, 2004 Posted December 31, 2004 Did anyone ever suspect we'd have to learn so much about so many things just to make a knife? There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. Will Rogers
Brian Vanspeybroeck Posted December 31, 2004 Posted December 31, 2004 Nice knife, Larry...nice picture too! Â Not Worthy I wonder how many guys who are making knives and doing their own photography/promotion/website stuff spend as much time on the pictures and stuff as they do on the knives? I know I do. Granted, I am *really* part time on the knife making but it seems to me that an hour in the shop pretty much equals an hour with the camera/at the computer/ on line. A lot of folks don't understand how many sybiotic skills we learn to go with the metal crafting. Brian "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein "The innovator is not an opponent of the old. He is a proponent of the new." - Lyle E. Schaller http://home.mchsi.com/~hermits/BrianRVanSp..._Edged_Art.html
DFogg Posted December 31, 2004 Posted December 31, 2004 I spent an afternoon with a friend and the entire conversation focused on the periodic table and knife work. If I had only known how important it was, I would have paid more attention in chemistry class. Don Fogg
Mike Blue Posted December 31, 2004 Posted December 31, 2004 The next question I have is: Is there any other craft that will produce a more well-rounded generalist human being? There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. Will Rogers
Brian Vanspeybroeck Posted December 31, 2004 Posted December 31, 2004 When I started trying to make knives and stuff, I *never* had a clue of how many things I would learn in the process. I think I'm still overwhelmed by the amount of skills I have yet to develop. I'd give up and take up something more simple and direct if'n I was smarter.  :cool: ...and one of the main reasons I continue with knife making is that it is the best way I have found to "round" myself and balance the essential aspects of being a decent human. Studying martial arts (non competitively) and handling show dogs come close to developing symbiotic and varied skills that apply directly to the "real world". But I think playing with fire, hammers, tools and materials is *the * single best way for me to balance myself. Something about handling and creating a tool that has the ability to cure or kill and satisfies the basic (and complex) human need to possess the best tool available still makes me tingle. It's art, it's craft, it's knowledge, it's power, and it's mine. That and all the cool characters one meets along the way.  Super  No, I don't think there is a craft that is better at creating a more rounded human. Brian "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein "The innovator is not an opponent of the old. He is a proponent of the new." - Lyle E. Schaller http://home.mchsi.com/~hermits/BrianRVanSp..._Edged_Art.html
shane justice Posted December 31, 2004 Posted December 31, 2004 Dear Mr. Harley, Beautiful knife! Mr. Fogg, It looks like you are using two light sources? ONe to show the temper line and accentuate the flat of the blade and a second to bring out the detail from the pommel and handle? Is that right? Are you using that paper? stuff as a light filter around a framework? What kind of lens on your digital camera? Is it a special deal? Questions from a guy with no bread to pay a professional camera guy. SHane "Never point a weapon loaded." ~ Hagar the Horrible~
larry harley Posted December 31, 2004 Author Posted December 31, 2004 Nice knife, Larry...nice picture too! Â Not Worthy I wonder how many guys who are making knives and doing their own photography/promotion/website stuff spend as much time on the pictures and stuff as they do on the knives? I know I do. Granted, I am *really* part time on the knife making but it seems to me that an hour in the shop pretty much equals an hour with the camera/at the computer/ on line. A lot of folks don't understand how many sybiotic skills we learn to go with the metal crafting. Brian NOT NERLEY ENOUGH W THE CAMERA if pics were knives id be loking for picture ins in sted of hammerins hey thats a good thought mabey coop wiill help do a pic thing at the hammerin this yr. harley
larry harley Posted December 31, 2004 Author Posted December 31, 2004 Dear Mr. Harley, Beautiful knife! Mr. Fogg, It looks like you are using two light sources? ONe to show the temper line and accentuate the flat of the blade and a second to bring out the detail from the pommel and handle? Is that right? Are you using that paper? stuff as a light filter around a framework? What kind of lens on your digital camera? Is it a special deal? Questions from a guy with no bread to pay a professional camera guy. SHane ok don answer enquireing minds want to know?? harley p.s. mr harley was my grandad my dad was called "pap" i,m just plane ol harley:)
larry harley Posted December 31, 2004 Author Posted December 31, 2004 The next question I have is: Â Is there any other craft that will produce a more well-rounded generalist human being? chef school:) harley
DFogg Posted January 1, 2005 Posted January 1, 2005 I did use two lights one incandescent for the handle and one flourscent for the hamon. I didn't use a light tent or diffusing screen. They are helpful, but for this I just want a quick set up and used the bench lighting. I shot it using a Nikon D70 with a 60mm Micro-Nikor lens. I posted the picture to illustrate that you can get clear closeup photos in a small file size by filling the frame with the knife and by using a simple background. It pays to have a professional shoot your knives especially if you are submitting them to a magazine, but we still need to be able to take pictures of our own work to use for the web and to send out to customers. Don Fogg
Mike Blue Posted January 1, 2005 Posted January 1, 2005 Larry, I sent one of my girls to chef school so I wouldn't be distracted from smiting steel. Nothing like a good meal to round out a hammerin. So what are you cooking up in March? I might just show up to poke the charcoal once or twicet. There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. Will Rogers
larry harley Posted January 1, 2005 Author Posted January 1, 2005 Larry, I sent one of my girls to chef school so I wouldn't be distracted from smiting steel. Â Nothing like a good meal to round out a hammerin. Â So what are you cooking up in March? Â I might just show up to poke the charcoal once or twicet. most yrs theres a smith hered named jim prill who does smoked brisket homemade chips and slaw we eat that sat and graze again sun on it but he NEVER gets to see the hammerin so i,m tryig to do something different this yr m.r.e.,s for 50:)
larry harley Posted January 1, 2005 Author Posted January 1, 2005 Nice knife, Larry...nice picture too!  Not Worthy I wonder how many guys who are making knives and doing their own photography/promotion/website stuff spend as much time on the pictures and stuff as they do on the knives? I know I do. Granted, I am *really* part time on the knife making but it seems to me that an hour in the shop pretty much equals an hour with the camera/at the computer/ on line. A lot of folks don't understand how many sybiotic skills we learn to go with the metal crafting. Brian NOT NERLEY ENOUGH W THE CAMERA if pics were knives id  be loking for picture ins in sted of hammerins hey thats a good thought mabey coop wiill help do a pic thing at the hammerin this yr. harley good news jim cooper who is "sharp by coop" http://www.sharpbycoop.com/ has promised to do a short session on takeing knife pics a first for a hammerin i think will help us all administrate our web sight better harley photogenic possun
shane justice Posted January 1, 2005 Posted January 1, 2005 Dang Harley! Your Hammer In wing ding sounds like a good time. God knows I could use the knowledge and experience of being there. Wyoming is a ways from Tennesse. BTW, We met in Atltanta this year. I was the big guy in bib overalls saying stupid things. It was good to meet you. SHane "Never point a weapon loaded." ~ Hagar the Horrible~
DFogg Posted January 1, 2005 Posted January 1, 2005 Big guy in bib overalls saying stupid things, you sure would stand out in the crowd here in Jasper, Alabama. :laugh: Don Fogg
shane justice Posted January 1, 2005 Posted January 1, 2005 Ok, Mr. Fogg...you made a funny! Shane "Never point a weapon loaded." ~ Hagar the Horrible~
Mike Blue Posted January 1, 2005 Posted January 1, 2005 Stick a tuque or mad bomber's hat on his noggin and he'd need no other camoflage up here in the GWN. There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. Will Rogers
Kyle Johnson Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 The next question I have is: Â Is there any other craft that will produce a more well-rounded generalist human being? I think the real question is if it matters what the craft is. I mean the Artist/Craftsman has to learn new things as every project is unique and the needs of the project differ each time. Unless you make one thing and do it the same every time. Then you're not a craftsman - just a one man assembly line. Station Master - Angel Station http://home.comcast.net/~greyangel1/AngelStation
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