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Niko Hynninen

Reflection to the ancient steel.

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it really looks like ancient moire,

I will wait for the looks when you have put it to shape and shine, Niko

 

with a slight jealous look

to Finnland

 

terveisiä saksasta

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Thanks.

 

Im still more focused making Wootz to this level...I wanto make it so it really dosent show any differen´s to

ancient...Me thinks that´s quite / allmost there...but! I just wanto get that tip of it in there too.

 

That said...it will take time to me actually make even one of blanks to finnished sword...I really want steel to be

spot one...if its reflect that ancient look...I will hunt me for rest of my days.

 

Please dont feel any jealous feelings...it´s just poison

 

Keep your crucilbe´s hot and forge running...follow your heart.

 

BR

 

N

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Niko, That is just Wonderful!! :)

 

 

One of these days.

 

Mark

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that is one heck of an impressive reflection !

 

I'd say its on the spot ...

 

the pattern and the look of the steel is totally sweet

 

 

Niko, you make some beautiful art there, thanks for showing

 

 

Greg

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Thanks.

Im still more focused making Wootz to this level...I wanto make it so it really dosent show any differen´s to

ancient...Me thinks that´s quite / allmost there...but! I just wanto get that tip of it in there too.

That said...it will take time to me actually make even one of blanks to finnished sword...I really want steel to be

spot one...if its reflect that ancient look...I will hunt me for rest of my days.

Please dont feel any jealous feelings...it´s just poison

Keep your crucilbe´s hot and forge running...follow your heart.

BR

N

 

Niko,

Nice steel..I think few people understand that in wootz talk "almost there", could mean in a year or two or more. I recognize the pattern you have there, but am confused about the scale, guessing about the width of the grinding marks to get an idea. Good work!

 

The rainy season is here and it is time for some iron making..last year I made about 10 fluffy blue iron blooms with the pine charcoal ( the theory is..fluffy iron has more soul than very dense iron..we will see soon). Good luck on getting that iron spot on ( I think you will ) but remember, the other "ancient" patterns out there also deserve attention.

Jan

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Niko,

Nice steel..I think few people understand that in wootz talk "almost there", could mean in a year or two or more. I recognize the pattern you have there, but am confused about the scale, guessing about the width of the grinding marks to get an idea. Good work!

 

The rainy season is here and it is time for some iron making..last year I made about 10 fluffy blue iron blooms with the pine charcoal ( the theory is..fluffy iron has more soul than very dense iron..we will see soon). Good luck on getting that iron spot on ( I think you will ) but remember, the other "ancient" patterns out there also deserve attention.

Jan

 

 

Jan.

 

 

Thanks!

 

This " almost there" is just in my mind...Have heard that why you try it get " better"...it´s there all ready.

Almost in this contens is that I do wanto explore different ideas that gomes to patterns..reflect that to the "real" patterns.

Lots of differens in steels that can be find in books, net, live swords.

 

Also, im studying the pattern size at same time.

 

So in general Im all ready there where I wanto be ( and really happy whit this :lol: ) ..this said, this blade has bean next to ancient sword steel and as covered whit cardboard

that has square hole in it, its really imposible to say what is what....If you dont see rest of the blade..

....no need to wait year, two....Pattern is not accident at all, have repeated this several times now.

 

This is 30mm wide steel whit really fast grid and "polish" + etch...but etch was super easy...just wipe whit solution and thats it...its duo the steel...Me thinks.

 

....and yes there realy is other "ancient" patterns out there, this is just my interpretation one of ancinet Wootz steel in modern world.

Too many patterns to produse in one lifetime...

Edited by Niko Hynninen

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holy-moly-

I can see that you do not need any "lattering" od "x-ing" to produce a super fine structure,

Niko

soon you will have to give classes

on how to make this kind of Wootz

and there wil be quite some people ready to come to Finnland, too,

 

be ready

 

ja pysy terävänä!

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Another blade..another pattern.

puukkoI.jpg

Niko

 

Niko,

Thanks for adding the ruler to the image. That is a beautiful pattern and about the most beautiful wootz pattern I have seen by modern makers...you are giving us all something to look forward to.

Maybe it is time for you to buy some cardboard.

Jan

Edited by Jan Ysselstein

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Thank´s Guys.

 

 

...give classes ..Hymmmmm..i have to give that some thought.

 

I do have lots of cardboard Jan...I could even donate some...What I really need

is 50 ancient swords to study :D ..but to buy those would be just too much money spend..I think i but all that in my own steel production.

 

...if all goes ok..during weekend I need to forge out 10 ingots to bars B)

pattern of those is still bit one the dark side...but ;)

 

 

Niko

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All ingots to bars...

 

 

 

...total 28 kg B)/>/>/>/>/>

 

Niko,

You inspire me to do it, you have really reached for original experiments and methods.

Looking very good. I assume they will all have that pattern as shown above...no surprises anymore. Good luck forging them to final pattern(s).

 

If a person were to be able to create a really great traditional pattern..do you think there would be a market for such steel. I see so many swords that have been ruined, due to corrosion or the attempted removal of corrosion by untrained people . Many of the swords are beautiful in all respects but the steel blade. I keep wanting to put my little eggs on eeeeeebay as Wootz ingots, made in Usacastan,USA .. shipping as far away as Rajasthan. This will wait until I am more comfortable with my 2 kg crucibles.. When I lifted the last crucible from the furnace to place it in ashes, the top of the crucible was all that came up... as the crucible was eaten away just at the line where the slag/glass was ( this ingot was furnace cooled needless to say). I am very glad I was not injured.

 

I am right in the middle of building this monster press and trying to get an old large grinding wheel motorized ( I will use a VFD to get it going at a lower speed) . I will be joining you soon by working down some of the old wrought iron in the pile..saving the homemade stuff for later.

Jan

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This is beautiful, Niko. Absolutely beautiful.

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Thanks Guys.

 

Jan good luck for you journey, looking frwd to see your Wootz steel.

Im clad you are ok...that was close call..stay safe!

 

 

 

Just fast one form one of these bars...

 

Pattern I.jpg

 

Pattern.jpg

 

Its still blank...so it will move more later..Me thinks.

 

 

 

BR

Niko

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28 kg worth, wow, you've been a busy fellow! What are you using for starting materials? Wrought and charcoal, or are you doing a direct reduction of ore?

 

Zeb

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28 kg worth, wow, you've been a busy fellow! What are you using for starting materials? Wrought and charcoal, or are you doing a direct reduction of ore?

 

Zeb

 

 

Thanks, It was long days and long hours in this state.

 

I just melt cast iron and iron ( self made or ready made), I think DR is quite different deal..and its not easy to make bigger ingots...these here are from 2-2,5-4 kg ingots

 

Niko

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Wow am I jealous ;)

Awesome looking bars, and 28kg! That's quite a haul!

 

John

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Ass kicking wtfpwning pieces of master work!!!!!i have to say that your work is really close to the ancient museum pieces.

 

i used vaccum induction furance making wootz. however my wootz's pattern always looks too refined compared to ancient wootz. i am thinking using another oven set it to 1400C. cast at 1700c. then soak it at 1400c furance. this way the carbide dendritie will have enough time and energy to grow larger. i have to stay in america for a few month. i will try that again after i go back to china.

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Thanks Guys.

 

Jan good luck for you journey, looking frwd to see your Wootz steel.

Im clad you are ok...that was close call..stay safe!

Just fast one form one of these bars...

Pattern I.jpg

Pattern.jpg

Its still blank...so it will move more later..Me thinks.

 

BR

Niko

 

Niko,

As I was cleaning my forge area ( my gas forge sits right over my coke forge ) , I noticed the gas forge was being held up by two wootz bars...one not so interesting, the other, I had been looking for for a long time ( not because I thought it looked like "ancient steel"but because it was missing). I have not made any effort to spheroidize this metal..Surprisingly this bar looks a lot like the "ancient steel" ..I will look at the records and try to duplicate it. Thanks for posting this pattern, it is turning out to be an intriguing topic.

 

Jan

Edited by Jan Ysselstein

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Hi Niko,

 

what a super steel you produce, I which that I had the time to be on the journey. I did not do a melt for two years, not enough time to experiment.

 

You are da man!

 

Best regards, Cyrus

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I went all the way to the dark side...but this has bean most

interesting journey in my life time...so far.

 

I keep continuing this prosses of watering steel pattern...and looks like there is not end.

This keeps me happy sens this as I said ...has not bean accidnet.

 

However....If all dosent end next week...I will make this "kard" ready....

It´s not huge only 250mm long blade but its something..

 

And the pattern...everybody love´s pattern...so

 

Pat IVI.jpg

 

 

Niko

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I went all the way to the dark side...but this has bean most

interesting journey in my life time...so far.

I keep continuing this prosses of watering steel pattern...and looks like there is not end.

This keeps me happy sens this as I said ...has not bean accidnet.

However....If all dosent end next week...I will make this "kard" ready....

It´s not huge only 250mm long blade but its something..

And the pattern...everybody love´s pattern...so

Pat IVI.jpg

Niko

 

Niko.

Still beautiful..and not an accident, that is a step forward for sure. The attached photos are an accident..it was "an accident waiting to happen"...luckily there was a witness. Good luck on the Kard.

Jan

 

 

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