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Hello All, Just saw the comments about NIko here.......I think people are brave over the internet and less so in person. If Niko says he is making this then he is. I never doubted his skills

Marius, you clearly don't know wootz sufficiently to comment. A bar can easily show a very good pattern after filing, light sanding and etching, and one doesn't need to make a blade from steel in orde

Hi Marius i agree with Alan, except my opinion is that Niko makes “ the best “ modern wootz steel.  The patterns are absolutely wonderful !  He has worked very hard, and shared his experiences in

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Niko,

Very beautiful and lots of it , wow. What are you doing, making 7kg ingots?

 

Due to my chosen limitations , the most metal I can melt in a weekend is about 6 kgs ( if all went well ). I think you are on to a good thing here.

 

Jan

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Thanks Jan and Geoff.

 

 

I would love to forge one of those Kilij sword blades...But I have to look into it lots more.

Shape and over all measures and forging order help´s not not to make it "wrong".

How ever I need that summer to be in here before some actual forging..I keep this in mind.

 

Jan Ingots where various sizes, 2, 2,5, -3 kg..here is pic of some of the ingot´s..

No need to make monster ingots..its too much work and getting it to a nice bar....even more work.

 

You can get nice pattern in to.. say 0,5 kg ingot too...

 

Niko

 

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Niko,

 

The ingot I had so much hope for, is no good, internal gas , which had no escape route due to a cold top. I will be forging it regardless, as I believe it to be special (even with the big holes). As long as I can get a little sample, I am happy. I am running a little low on ingredients, so I will be using old ingots ( failed ingots ) for a series of remelts. I have enough material for 10 remelts , this material includes the Georgian ingot ( to which I will have to add micro nutrients ) as well as some of the very first ingots made 2007 or 2006( each remelt will weigh about 1200 to 1500 grams ). I am rapidly approaching 800 experiments.

 

Jan

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Niko and Jan, you guys are starting to sound a little Zen in your posts! The work is phenomenal! As to the talk about luck here are two quotes on that:

"The harder I work the luckier I get" Samuel Goldwyn

"Diligence is the mother of good luck" Benjamin Franklin

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Even freezing temps I run some Wootz ingots... 30,5 kg total / various sizes.

and had chance to forge some of those too.

 

Managet to forge 2 bars....whit quite nice pattern...even its not that big pattern.

 

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Niko

Ohh my God!!!!!!!!!

 

Breathtaking beauty!!

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Hello,

sorry to leave this old subject.

I do my wootz for over ten years and I am more blades.

I always meet alot of problem and forge and fusion.

I often have bubbles in the lingo, and also crack when I forge.

I do not speak English and is very difficil to have information.

"Niko" she forges temperature you to have these beautiful drawing ?? Or what material you put in the crucible?

A tu as cracks on the edges when you forges ??

thank you

j louis

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During all these years I have tried to find info from industry, books and other modern steel making

journal´s...but all of them have that same " flaw" they will guide in wrong way all most in every turn.

 

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Amen to that Niko!

You got it right and your wootz reflects that. Congratulations!

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NIko,

 

Wow, I have had just the opposite experience..I used to keep detailed notes....I found no contradictions in my experience with iron and what I read in the text books. What I do find is most topics of use and interest to us are only academic topics to industry.

 

Jan

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Niko,

Reflecting, on your comment above, I will say there is an elephant in the room of the wootz house...probably several, I have touched one and it is real...but the academic types are dependent on archeological evidence ( that is required)..I think it is there, but not being interpreted the way some of the hands on people would see it.

 

Jan

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Niko,

 

Some really lovely patterns there, it makes me eager to get back into forging myself. I have noticed that the more ingots that I forged out, the better the patterns got. Funny how that happens. Good work, keep it up Mate!

 

Tim.

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Niko, that video is a real winner, it is the first time that I have seen a progression of the pattern put together like that, well done! Just as a point of curiosity, did you do this all with one ingot or several different ingots?

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Hi Tim.

 

Thanks´s

 

Im glad that you like it and find it interesting, it holds quite large amount of info.

I used single ingot as only this way it would have bean realistic and true. This

matrix skope pic project I started years ago and this was done at 2012-2013

It tooked lots of time at forging and at skope too...this was quite slow prosses. Heating, forging,cooling, grinding, polishing, etching...repeatedly.

Some images I have hunted for years but in this project I did got all steps just spot one.

 

Niko

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Hi Niko,

 

Glad that it was the one ingot, it really is quite an achievement, and not easy to forge in the early stages without ruining the ingot once you grind through the decarb layer. Just out of curiosity, what was the carbon percentage of this ingot, did you test it? It looks to me like it was just above 1.6 %, plenty of carbon there.

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Latest pattern, just after forging...some dacarb and loos Cm there is still but it will chance a bit

later..edge up and its still 3 mm and spine down about 5mm, 50mm max and quite near the tip 40.

Pattern is bit fuzzy, but ok ´ is

 

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