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My Friend Bryan gave me these two wonderful tools.

I am trying to find out if this is an English Anvil.

The only mark I can find is the number 16 stamped in it.

I looked online and the waist and feet look like English anvils that are not Peter Wrights.

I would guess its over 200# and less than 300 because I was able to pick it up and put it in the back of the truck.

Thanks

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It looks just like mine JJ.

Not sure what it is though.

Mark

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Ah, a double mystery.

I haven't even dropped a hammer on it, how's yours sound, rebound etc.?

We will see if any anvil-philes will know.

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Mine works great. Very solid. I have it on a big stump, and it doesn't ring much, but it will move some steel.

And I don't use very heavy hammers. That is what my press is for.

The guy told me what he thought mine was, I will see if I can remember. Didn't worry about it much. It just didn't matter. It was just nice to have a 'real' anvil.

 

Mark

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I'm looking forward to cleaning it up.

Maybe there will be more writing visible once I clean it.

I think I'm going to put it on the mill and level the face.

The one side has a big dent/chip that will have to be filled if I want the whole thing square.

How much does your's weigh?

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It's a Mouse Hole anvil. Very old, English made, pretty good anvils. Doesn't look like 200+ lbs based on it proportions.

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Hey Don, thanks for the heads up.

If I put the proportion up would there be a way to calculate how much it weighs?

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Yes get the dimensions up here. I could probably get close comparing it to my anvils. I have a 149, 248 and a 400.

 

I also have an anvil book that might have the weights, info, etc.

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Hey Don, thanks for the heads up.

If I put the proportion up would there be a way to calculate how much it weighs?

 

looks like a 130# or 180# mousehole. light enough to put on the bathroom scale!

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Hey Joe,

No bathroom scale. They make me sad. ;)

I will take the measurements and post them soon.

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Don, the anvil is

27" Long

11.5" Tall

the hardy hole is just shy of 1.25"

The base is 12.5"X11.5"

The face is 17" from the table to the heel and 4.25" wide.

Thanks for the help.

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JJ. It is almost the same size as my Peter Wright which weighs 178 lbs.

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Thanks Troy.

That helps.

I'm going to clean it ans see if the other #'s are visible.

I'm very happy to have it and can't wait to get it on a stand and use it

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JJ, I'll need to check my book and anvils tomorrow, all are out in the shop. Will let you know asap.

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I had to go look. :)/>/>/>

 

It's larger then my 148 lb Peter Wright by about 20%, so that should put it around 180 lbs.

 

There are some other old English anvils that look similar, but Mousehole was the most common.

 

Good size anvil. Let us know if you fine any numbers or name on it.

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I'd be slow about doing too much to it. Beat on it for a while. You may find that the broken edge is not so bad, it might even be useful. It's easy (ish) to remove metal, lots harder to put it back.

 

Nice gifts, BTW.

 

Geoff

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I'm with Geoff on "fixing" the anvil. Remember the steel face plate is only about 3/8" to 1/2" thick, and is only hard for about 1/8" of that.

 

Could easily be (and most likely is indeed) a Mousehole, but there were at least twenty different makers of the period (1830-1880-ish) in the Sheffield vicinity making that exact pattern. I bet there's some faint marks on the sides that will come out when you clean it up. Cool score and a seriously good friend! B) How big is the vise acroass the jaws?

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@Alan, the vice jaws are 4.25" approximately.

I cleaned a little more on the anvil and traced with soapstone what I could see from the stamps.

If my math is correct its 240LBS

That numeral 2 could be something else but unless the numeral 1 had a downward curve on the top of the stamp I can't figure it as anything else.

What do you guys think?

I know Troy's anvil is about the same size, maybe my girl just got a bigger booty. ;)

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Your math is correct! Big ol' anvil booty. :P

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Your math is correct, but are the numbers correct? ;)

 

I have a picture of a 184 lb Mousehole with the numbers 1 - 2 - 16.

 

Your dimensions fit anvils in the 180 lb range. But you could have an odd ball. It's nice anyway!

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Don my numbers could be off.

Its the best I could figure off the body.

Either way I'm very happy.

If I get a chance I'll put it on a scale.

If its 240, I'm proud of my ability to pick it up and carry it.

If its 180 I'm a little crestfallen.

Now to finish cleaning it and build a stand.

Thanks for the help gentlemen

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@Alan, the vice jaws are 4.25" approximately.

I cleaned a little more on the anvil and traced with soapstone what I could see from the stamps.

If my math is correct its 240LBS

That numeral 2 could be something else but unless the numeral 1 had a downward curve on the top of the stamp I can't figure it as anything else.

What do you guys think?

I know Troy's anvil is about the same size, maybe my girl just got a bigger booty. ;)/>

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wow, nice clean-up job! how did you do it?

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@Joe,

I really haven't done anything to it yet.

I sprayed it repeatedly with Liquid Wrench kinda like PB Blaster.

Then I rubbed it down with steel wool.

The patina is fantastic.

I will hit it with a wire brush on a angle grinder to really clean it.

I am going to take the guys advice and use it a bit and if I do need to reface it I think I will build the face up with hard facing welding electrodes and then mill it down. That way I don't take too much of the original face off.

 

@Don, I found a British anvil on Ebay almost the same dimensions as this one weighing in at a hefty 239LBS.

 

I will post pics as I clean it.

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@Joe,

I really haven't done anything to it yet.

I sprayed it repeatedly with Liquid Wrench kinda like PB Blaster.

Then I rubbed it down with steel wool.

The patina is fantastic.

I will hit it with a wire brush on a angle grinder to really clean it.

I am going to take the guys advice and use it a bit and if I do need to reface it I think I will build the face up with hard facing welding electrodes and then mill it down. That way I don't take too much of the original face off.

 

@Don, I found a British anvil on Ebay almost the same dimensions as this one weighing in at a hefty 239LBS.

 

I will post pics as I clean it.

Well the body of that mousehole is chunkier than the Peter Wrights we are comparing it to. So it could be a big-un.

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