Steven Spall Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I've been looking around the internet for sites that sell raw ore but all I can find is mines for sale or large quantities (tons or more). if anyone could point me in the right direction to smaller amounts that would be awesome. Thanks. domum chalybs passio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell @ warehamforge.ca Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 First - a basic overview: http://warehamforgeblog.blogspot.ca/2008/09/ore-sources.html Finding a natural ore depends on geography, and as 'plentiful' as iron oxide is in the environment (generally), truth is not *everyone* has access in their local area. This normally means one of three possible commercial sources: Industrial Taconite Pellets Hematite Sandblasting Grit Iron Oxide Pigment Industrial Taconite will depend largely on industry in your area. This is the form iron is semi processed at the mine, then shipped to the smelter for modern steel production. If there are no mills (or mines!) in your area, sometimes this material can be found 'spilled' along transport routes - being harbours or rail lines. Taconite will require roasting, then labourious breaking into smaller pieces for the typical small size bloomery furnace. Hematite Sandblasting Grit comes from a source in Quebec, and is ground and bagged here in Southern Ontario by Opta Minerals (see http://www.optaminerals.com/Products/ ). The modern use is for sandblasting large metal surfaces - primarily ship hulls for re-painting. The material may be available in 90 lb sacks. Check a local sand blasting company. Last time I could purchase the small size, it ran about $20 per bag. Hematite Grit is tricky to use in our bloomery furnaces, as the smaller size particles tend to reduce quickly and absorb excess carbon. This can yield 'steely' blooms - but its also easy to end up running too hot and getting cast iron. Fine Iron Oxide Pigment is used in two modern applications. It comes in 50 lb bags, used for glazes by potters, and to colour concrete. If you can find a concrete supplier that would sell a few bags, this is likely to be the most cost effective. (Mainly because the material is likely to be less refined - so cheaper.) Most pottery suppliers also have the material, better processed ($$) in three forms: Black (Fe3O4), Red and Spanish Red (both Fe2O3). Avoid the more pure 'Red', which here in Ontario runs about $200 per bag (!!). Right now the higher iron content Black and lower iron purity Spanish Red are costing about $50 per bag. My team here started working with these fine oxides a number of years back when we were trying to create a substitute for natural primary bog iron ore. The trick is to mix the fine powder into a paste with the addition of 10% whole wheat flour. The paste is then spread out and allow to dry and then broken into chunks. If you attempt to use the fine powder direct into the furnace - the air blast simply blows most of it right back out again. Black Potter's Oxide - mixed to analog, ready for the furnace http://www.warehamforge.ca/ironsmelting/LAM/LAM-one/report05-09.html There is a lot of information available on my blog on the development of what we call 'DARC Dirt' Analog : http://warehamforgeblog.blogspot.ca/search?q=%22ore+analog%22 I've got a table up that compares the various ore types (that we have worked with here) http://www.warehamforge.ca/ironsmelting/ores.html website: www.warehamforge.caBlog : http://warehamforgeblog.blogspot.com(topics include iron smelting, blacksmithing, Viking Age)NOTE : Any posted comments may be converted into a future blog article! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Green Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Looks like there is a good bit of ore in Mo. However, it may be hard to get from the old mine sites. Looks like you may have the same bat problem we have here as some great mine sites. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_Knob_(Iron_County,_Missouri) http://www.mindat.org/loc-3868.html https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Iron_County,_Missouri These are a few. But I'm having trouble linking on this site for some reason. Just paste these in your browser. Mark Mark Green I have a way? Is that better then a plan? (cptn. Mal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Green Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Hell, I can't even make paragraph's now???? Mark Green I have a way? Is that better then a plan? (cptn. Mal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Spall Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Thanks for the info matt. I was actually researching pilots knob and my fiancee saw and said she wanted to visit the area this summer because of a place nearby she went to in college. so i was thinking i may check out some old mines while we're there. I'll definitely look into buying some for now but i would LOVE to eventually make a knife from iron i pulled out of the ground myself, just for nostalgia's sake domum chalybs passio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Cauble Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 A few wheelbarrow's worth of ore could last you countless smelts. My Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/TAGMushy/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Estes Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I have thought about asking the gold miners in alaska for the black sand they cast off Quote just use common sense.......dude your boned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Cauble Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 That would be a pretty good score. My Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/TAGMushy/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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