TrevorWalsh Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 So I found out that the sculpture workshop I was going to start forging in will have to be delayed another week, Safety Orientation's fall the day after the open work days. It's a bummer, because I run a shop as my day job, and have given likely a similar safety talk several times a semester to the new students. Oh well, the idiosyncrasies of shops. Since I can't forge down the kitchen knife shapes I wanted I thought I'd start on a pair of the ko-tantos in the attached sketch. After reading Dave F.'s stuff on the Crossed Heart Forge website over and over, I think I know what I need to attempt. I made a brass kata, from some thin stock and used that to mark out the 1084. The two were adhered together temporarily, drilled, milled and profiled. I am doing this at work after hours, and as long as I had the mill it would be a quick way to rough the mune (spine), nikago (tang) planes parallel to one another and have a nice square munemachi (step down to nikago from the spine side). Finish profiling with the disk sander and separate. I cleaned up and flattened the faces on a 500 grit stone... Then began work on setting the iori-mune (house roof spine shape), tapering and roughing in the hira-zukuri (full flat grind) shape. And that's it for tonight. I'm bone tired and ready to go sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin leonard Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Awesome milling machine man http://bearclawknives.com/ my mentor and his friends once told me there os no problem that cant be solved with a fine cigar and a pot of coffee you know some people just need a sympathetic pat.....on the head........with sledge hammerSeven Points Forge by the Bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJ Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 how is this project going? nice looking "classical tanto tip" shape, starting with a kata is great. you might want to taper the tang profiles a bit to help with your handle carving: http://islandblacksmith.ca/tag/tanto-geometry/ Davej - Crossed Heart Forge * islandblacksmith.ca * instagram * youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorWalsh Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 Thanks Dave, alot of what I've been thinking of comes from the design articles on your site, your discussion of the Aizu Shintogo kata. I have some more photos I have to get up of this blade in progress... When you say "taper the tang profiles a bit" are you refering to the distal tapering from the habaki area to the end or from the nakago-no-mune to nakago-no-ha? Both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJ Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 ...i think i meant a wee bit more taper from the side or "profile" view, so that you get a firm registration without any play as you carve inside the handles... but yes, along the other two axis as well; the nakago-no-mune should have a distal taper and from the nakago-no-mune to the nakago-no-ha should taper at the same angle as the blade bevels do... here is the specific one on those details, with photos: islandblacksmith.ca/2014/06/classical-tanto-geometry-nakago-tang/ ...but get those photos up, you may be way ahead of me on this already... ^__^ Davej - Crossed Heart Forge * islandblacksmith.ca * instagram * youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorWalsh Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Thanks for holding my hand with this Dave, here is the photo of the blade in progress against the kata. There is a more pronounced taper than in the kata. I think I reground the profile because after the distal taper, and blade bevel tapers, the nikago-no-ha itself had a distal taper, which in your geometry primer say should be of parallel thickness.That seems a simple way to drive and constrain the various planes and tapers involved. So how am I doing? Edited July 8, 2015 by TrevorWalsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJ Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 yep, i find that is the best way to think about it: (start with a classical/antique kata) profile/outline the tang, then bring the bevels back from the blade so that the nakago-no-ha is the right thickness all the way along, and then the distal taper of the tang has already established itself for the most part... Davej - Crossed Heart Forge * islandblacksmith.ca * instagram * youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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