Mark Green 17 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Hi Gang, I don't think I have ever seen this posted here before, and as I was making a bunch for finger stone polishing, I thought I would share. This is how I make the water I use when doing fine polishing on any blades. Especially Japanese style blades, when working with the finger stones, and if working on an iron tsuba in tight places. It is very easy. I use a big plastic funnel, and a plastic 1/2-1 gal. container of any kind. A wide top is best, for the funnel to sit in. Cut out an old T shirt or some kind of simple, natural cloth that will drain. I put the cloth in the top of the funnel, go to the fire place, and fill it about 2/3 full with hardwood ash. Put the funnel, into the container. Then I use a gal. of distilled water, and gently fill the funnel, with the ash. This will drain into the container. It will make a very Pee looking water. Run as much of the water as will safely stay in the container, then repeat. Run the Waki water through the ash about 4-6 times. This will make water that will not rust metal. No need to add baking soda, or anything else. Oak is best. Polish away. Mark Link to post Share on other sites
C.Anderson 13 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 That's awesome! I used to use baking soda...but it made such a mess that I switched to straight windex. This looks much better though, as I prefer using natural elements as opposed to synthetic where I can. Link to post Share on other sites
Alan Longmire 2,717 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 That's actually a very weak solution of lye, or sodium/potassium hydroxide. If you take that water and run it through the ashes until it'll float an egg, then boil it, you'll get lye crystals. Mix that egg-floating solution with rendered fat of some sort and boil it down, you'll get old fashioned lye soap. Cool chemistry, but I honestly did not know it prevented the water from rusting steel! Link to post Share on other sites
Don Abbott 115 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Yeah, a lot of the old home places had a thing that looked like this next to them: Exactly the same thing you're doing. Link to post Share on other sites
Tyler Miller 0 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Be a little careful with ash water, though. It weakens your fingernails and thins your skin. Link to post Share on other sites
jdsmith02115 36 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 What you've made is called 'potash'. Link to post Share on other sites
Dan O'Connor 25 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 If you don't want to make Mark's solution, which is pretty cool by the way, what you want for polishing water is washing soda (Sodium Carbonate Na2CO3) also called soda ash, not baking soda (sodium bicarbonate NaHCO3). Potash is made from wood, soda ash is made from sodium rich plants or can be. It is synthetically produced in large quantities from salt and limestone. You can make soda ash from baking soda by cooking at 400 degrees in the oven. When heated, sodium bicarbonate becomes sodium carbonate, water (steam) and carbon dioxide. Or just buy it. Arm and Hammer makes a Super Washing Powder. Says it is sodium carbonate only. Or get more pure (maybe) stuff online. Soda ash on Amazon Link to post Share on other sites
Miles Hebbard 2 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Cool, now I need to find some oak! Link to post Share on other sites
DaveJ 68 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) i think the chemistry has something to do with reducing the acidity that leads to corrosion on the fresh cut steel surface as you polish...that is why the common denominator in the solutions is some type of base...and it needn't be very strong to do the job (so dilute and save those fingernails, tyler!) Edited September 11, 2014 by DaveJ Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Green 17 Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 I have never noticed that it wrecked my fingernails. I've done some serious dozens of hours of finger stone polishing for some weeks at a time. ?? Link to post Share on other sites
Alan Longmire 2,717 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 That's because it's a weak enough solution it doesn't bother you. Link to post Share on other sites
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