Kenon Rain. Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Should I buy 330lb of 15n20 sheet for 135$? It's all clean new material, some of it with the steel producer name on it (uddeholm). Kind of a no brainer score I guess, the only trick to it is its all in foot wide 4ft strip so I'll need to cut it down by hand or plasma and clean up the edges. (40c per lb) Can you have carbon steel sheared without knowing if it is annealed? Edited March 11, 2015 by Kenon Rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Stephens Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Holy crap! Yeah, I'd jump on that like a bum on a bologna sandwich! How thick are the 12" x 4' bars? Sounds like a great score. Dave -----------------------------------------------"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly." -- Theodore Roosevelthttp://stephensforge.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenon Rain. Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 On average most pieces are about .095", some a little thinner but nothing much less than .08" on up to .125" What is the usual price per lb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Stephens Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I have not idea how much per pound, but a single 48" long bar of .095" thick by 6" wide bar of 15n20 is over $60 on a very popular bladesmith steel vendor's site. That can't be more than a few pounds. -----------------------------------------------"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly." -- Theodore Roosevelthttp://stephensforge.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenon Rain. Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Holy smokes! They're 3-4 bucks a sheet I think for twice that width. I'll pick em up when I get paid If there is any interest I can sell some of it, there is more than I'm realistically going to use in the next 5 years ha. It's all the negatives from bandsaw blade production, some with the cutouts on the edge and most without Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. Runals Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Shoot if it is what you say it is I wouldn't wait another second! Uddeholm has a good reputation, and just as Dave pointed out you have hit on a heck of a value. I'd be more than happy to buy some of this from you! http://www.etsy.com/shop/NateRunalsBlacksmith?ref=pr_shop_more&view_type=gallerynaterunals.com My Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kruse-Kanyuck Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Heck yeah jump on it!!! I'd be willing to purchase some as well, if you're willing to spare a little. Pondered upon a rainy plateau, with a coal forge, and many dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grpaavola Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I think it's safe to say... You would have a very easy time on this site selling it! I know I would buy some! The fundamental cause of trouble is that the stupid are cocksure, while the intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand Russell, philosopherfollow me on Instagram @raggedravenforge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.H.Graham Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 My retail on that here would be in the range of 1800 bucks, so yeah, I would say it's a score. :0) If it has no teeth on it, it's annealed, it's bandsaw stock. Uddleholm and Sandvik are the main producers, both exceptionally high quality makers of 15n20 My advice would be to have it sheared in strips off of the long edges, as opposed to across the 12 width. This steel is verry agressively rolled and reduced in the steel mill and it'll have a "grain" orientated with the length of the strip. It should shear without any issues. Awesome score man! Congrats, 15n20 is a great steel. Randal www.rhgraham.simpl.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrod Miller Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I have not idea how much per pound, but a single 48" long bar of .095" thick by 6" wide bar of 15n20 is over $60 on a very popular bladesmith steel vendor's site. That can't be more than a few pounds. I generally ball-park the density of steels like this at 0.283 lb/in3, so 48 x 6 x .095 x .283 ≈ 7.75 pounds. That makes it about $7.75/lb ($60/7.75lb) there vs Kenon's $100/714lb being $0.14/lb. Score indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart davenport Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 It may be fully annealed, it may be at 42HRC. Aldo received some 15n20 that was not fully annealed, it was at 42HRC, slated for bandsaw production. PITA to work unless you anneal it. And 15n20 has a tendency to air harden on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenon Rain. Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 It seems to have a spring temper, I can bend it to about 45' and it snaps back to straight. I'll pick up half of it today. Some of it is marked Sandvik as well. I'll post a few pics of the score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenon Rain. Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Can you have it sheared if it is at 42hrc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collin Miller Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Awesome! I'm interested in buying some from you too, I was just looking at 15n20 from Aldo. Now we can find some 1084 for the same price. Edited March 4, 2015 by Collin Miller “If you trust in yourself. . . believe in your dreams. . . and follow your star. . . you will still get beaten by the people who have spent their time working hard and learning things, the people who weren't so lazy.” ~ Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenon Rain. Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Well, ended up being 40 cents a pound, but don't really care ha.. bought 350lb, and will be able to get another 500lb or so in 3 months of clean stock, had to pick through this and get the more or less rust free pieces. Going to steel wool the little surface rust that is on the few pieces that have it off and blast it all with wd40 to preserve it! Edited March 4, 2015 by Kenon Rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldo Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Hell Kenon, I would even buy it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Todd Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I wouldn't worry so much about annealing it. If you have to you can do it yourself, its not that hard (no pun intended). Just buy it, you never know until you try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenon Rain. Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 I'm just worried if would wreck someone's shear, I cleaned it all up with wd40, ended up real nice. Does anyone know if I can have this sheared at 42hrc? That's what I'm assuming it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart davenport Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 IIRC, the .070" stock Aldo had was at 42HRC, as it came off a pre hardened coil. But the .090" stock, the 1/8", and the 1/16" stock was fully annealed. I think that is right, not too sure. I am pretty sure it can be sheared at that hardness level without issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Brannen Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Not sure how possible this is, but could you call the company and ask for info on that batch? It seems like there is possibly enough info on there such as lot #'s, etc that maybe they could give you the most correct info. I've never tried to contact a large scale supplier so don't know how helpful it could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Page Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 That's a steal! If you do wind upwelling some off, let us know! Even in uncut sheets that would be useful for some armouring work I've got in mind Not all those who wander are lost. -J.R.R. Tolkien-Shards of the Dark Age- my blog-Nine Worlds Workshop--Last Apocalypse Forge- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenon Rain. Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 That is a great idea, I'll give it a shot in a few days. I would definitely call this a pre hardened coil.. it's got teeth lasered in on some piece's already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenon Rain. Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) I'll be posting a for sale thread this week, think I'll sell it per lb per sheet? Buyer pays shipping. Can't cut it down yet unless you don't mind plasma cut edges, in which case there will be an extra charge. Edited March 7, 2015 by Kenon Rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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