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Forged in Fire, History Channel

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Well there was talk about a reality show in the works and it seems like its a go... I'm gonna watch it, I just hope it treats our craft with some respect and the people invovled.

 

This was taken from the first web site found...

 

New Competition Series Coming to HISTORY this Summer

New York, April 27, 2015 – The most talented bladesmiths in the world will test their mettle in FORGED IN FIRE, a cutting-edge competition series coming to HISTORY this summer. Hosted by weapons expert Wil Willis, a former Army Ranger and decorated Air Force para-rescue specialist, the series will feature world-class bladesmiths recreating many of history’s most iconic edged weapons, from the Japanese katana to the medieval broadsword to ancient throwing blades like the Chakram. Production has started in Brooklyn, New York.

 

In each episode, four master bladesmiths will put their skills and reputations on the line, trying to avoid elimination while using traditional and state-of-the-art tools and machinery to turn raw metal into authentic working versions of classic bladed weapons of yesteryear. In the hands of these gifted craftsmen, every weapon is not just a lethal instrument of war, but also an elegant work of art. The colorful histories of these weapons will be told throughout the forging process. Then the weapons will be assessed and tested by a panel of internationally recognized judges.

 

Joining Willis will be a judging panel of renowned experts: J. Neilson, a Pennsylvania-based Mastersmith who has been making knives and edged weapons for more than 20 years; Doug Marcaida, a New York-based hand-to-hand combat specialist who has studied and mastered fighting styles and techniques around the world; and David Baker, a California-based authority known for replicating period-accurate weapons, from submachine guns to samurai swords, for both museums and films.

 

FORGED IN FIRE is produced for HISTORY by Outpost Entertainment, a Leftfield Entertainment company. Tim Healy and Steve Ascher are executive producers for HISTORY. Jodi Flynn, Brent Montgomery, David George, Shawn Witt and Simon Thomas are executive producers for Outpost Entertainment.

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I only hope it isn't another bullshit drama fest. BBC puts out a quality product. The bladesmith/blacksmith community here in the U.S. has a hard enough time to be taken as professionals as it is.

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Never heard of any of these guys myself, and so far the hysterically inaccurate channel has managed to make

every profession look like a pack of idiots MHO..... -_-

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I do not trust the "history" channel to do anything of ethical value. I only hope it is done well enough that bladesmtihs and blacksmiths are thought of as artists and urges people to seek them out to have handmade work done for them.

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I only hope it isn't another bullshit drama fest. BBC puts out a quality product. The bladesmith/blacksmith community here in the U.S. has a hard enough time to be taken as professionals as it is.

 

My thoughts exactly. There's too much drama and not enough soulful expression of the passion and art behind real craftsmanship. What Owen has doing with the BBC is one of the best things that has happened for the craft. I just hope that this show won't make it a laughing stock (although I fear it is inevitable in our unfortunate television culture). I won't presume to know the details, but if this has anything to do with the discussion from a few months ago about a similar topic, I think we're in for a bit of aggravation and headache with this. Even when we don't have any direct involvement, people on the outside seem to think this will be exactly how we all work all the time. Same thing with that Big Giant Swords show. Cool dude, but a fabricator, not a swordsmith. And because of it, while I personally found it entertaining in its own way, everyone seems to think that's what I do now, which is in no way accurate. Throw in a competition and people who will doubtless be made to look like a bunch of arse-hats, we have a recipe for disaster...

 

That being said, I'll probably give it a shot too. Hope for the best, expect the worst :rolleyes:

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Well depending on the people it could see be pretty good. I know we all think it can go really bad but wouldn't it be great if someone made a light agile razor sharp "broad sword" that could make alot of people rethink there views on some of these items...

 

 

It looks like J.Neilson on the forum here but proably can't talk about. But he has some really nice work!

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"In each episode, four master bladesmiths will put their skills and reputations on the line..."

 

Yes. Yes, they will.

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These folks contacted me a while back and when I heard the premise..I ran..not walked..RAN away.. It sounded bad then and even worse now... As far as that Big Giant guy up in Martha's Vineyard..I watched a couple of episodes and I keep asking why does the guy walk around wearing a jar around his neck? Does he chew snuff or???

 

JPH

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That is his steam-punk respiration filter. Cool eh?

 

I like how the blacksmith chick is never really smithing.

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Yes, the History (Hilarity) Channel is rather hit and miss in there programs. The idea of this one does make me cringe a bit just for the format. As far as not hearing about some of these people, J. Neilson is an ABS Mastersmith who can put out some quality work. I've met him once and have seen it and he used to display his work regularly on some of these boards. Why he decided to associate himself with this I have no idea. I hope he doesn't grow to regret it.

 

Doug

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I can tell you that this is not one of those idiotic reality TV shows. This is a straight up competition that gives the contestants tough but, reasonable challenges that will push the smith's skills. At the same time, this show will educate the audience and promote the talents & abilities of blade-smiths. There is nothing set up to promote failure, just the opposite. We want to promote the forged blade & the skills of the custom maker. This show will push it's makers & really test their mettle but, at the same time... these smiths shine. It's been an honor for me to work with these craftsmen & on this show.

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That would be great- I was seriously put off by the contract they sent me, which included language expressly giving my consent to be treated with false portrayal and outright defamation. I requested that they remove that language and they did, but included another careful exception a bit further down the contract. A casting agent that a friend of mine works with confirmed that it was not "the usual boilerplate" contract, as I was told when they wanted me to sign it. I've heard that other people had other issues with contractual details.

 

There was no way whatsoever I was going to open myself up to literal false portrayal and defamation, and I know I'm not the only one. Even if it turns out that it was just the casting agency somehow misrepresenting the History Channel's intentions, the History Channel itself has issues that give a lot of folks pause for concern.

 

I honestly hope I'm wrong, and that it turns out well for you, J., and for bladesmithing in general. :)

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I'll look forward to watching it. ( when it appears in a form I can watch in the UK.)

 

 

I would not be knocking the zeitgeist , right now the world seems to be giving a toss about blade-smiths , knife-makers , sword-smiths and makers in general ....Even welders who make big giant swords (which I love by the way)

 

I hope the smiths do well, and have some fun getting there, could be a great opportunity for them and anyhow I think it is often better to regret something you Have done over something you haven't... lots of similar phrases come to mind... .

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I have long since despaired of seeing anything decent on the "Ancient Aliens Pawned Nostradamus' Storage Locker" channel.

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Mike Loads has done some great work on The History Channel and there have been some other productions that were pretty good too but too many of them are of the type that claim the Arc of the Covenant was shipped to North America. I hope, as J. says, this is a straight up presentation.

 

Doug

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I've known J. a long time. If he says it's going to be good, I believe him. If they screw it up, it will be in post-production. Either way, I'll be watching when it hits the air. :)

 

-d

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