Jaro Petrina Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 On 3/6/2023 at 8:34 AM, Gerhard Gerber said: Saturday morning dedicated to forge plumbing shopping, also got a pine board which a buddy helped me fix to the wall behind the work bench. Got some screw in hooks and handles for my files that didn't have, but it was beer o'clock by the time the board was hung, shopping really tuckers me out When do you start some knives Gerhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ouellette Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I got a couple of blocks glued up for a handle and made a spatula for my kitchen. I bent it up cold after I ground and filed it. It works well and keeps my fingers out of the heat. 4 Bob O "When I raise my flashing sword, and my hand takes hold on judgment, I will take vengeance upon mine enemies, and I will repay those who haze me. Oh, Lord, raise me to Thy right hand and count me among Thy saints." My Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) While I was waiting for the kiln to cool off for tempering, I started cleaning up an old hammer head found in a dark corner of the new shop. It has all the appearances of a hand forged hammer, and an interesting makers mark. Like anyone who finds something old that looks hand made, I'm using all of my google-fu to find something about it from the makers mark. No luck yet cause I'm not even sure what to call the makers mark, but it will make a nice addition to my hammer rack anyway. Edited March 9 by Faye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 I've seen that mark, I think it's an older one from Atha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 (edited) Score! What's the weight? Edited March 10 by Joshua States “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhard Gerber Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Tomorrow is Finkenstein Bush Market 8am-1pm, then my VFD cabinet needs a few extra cable glands and the new VFD mounted, hopefully the new grinder will be running by the end of the day. I managed to get DB9 (old serial) connectors to connect the control panel to the VFD relatively easy, but the only cable I have easy access to is UTP LAN cable which is 8 core. Not sure if all the pins are used, but I'm one wire away from covering all the bases. STP would solve the problem with the additional earth wire, don't have any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ouellette Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I forged and rough ground 3 knives yesterday. Today I'm heat treating them and I might end up doing some more forging. My new medication has given me a lot of motivation to not be still for very long. Bob O "When I raise my flashing sword, and my hand takes hold on judgment, I will take vengeance upon mine enemies, and I will repay those who haze me. Oh, Lord, raise me to Thy right hand and count me among Thy saints." My Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles dP Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 19 hours ago, Gerhard Gerber said: I managed to get DB9 Just for a second there I thought you meant an Aston Martin 1 "The way we win matters" (Ender Wiggins) Orson Scott Card Nos qui libertate donati nescimus quid constat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 I have a commission for a new dagger and the client wants, get this, raindrop pattern. OK. So I spent today forging a 1 inch square 300+ layer billet into a raindrop patterned bar. Three patterning cycles. These are from cycle 1. Finished rough bar ready to forge into the dagger blade. 2 “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ouellette Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 8 hours ago, Joshua States said: I have a commission for a new dagger and the client wants, get this, raindrop pattern. What do you have against rain drop pattern? It doesn't seem like more of a pain than anything else. Bob O "When I raise my flashing sword, and my hand takes hold on judgment, I will take vengeance upon mine enemies, and I will repay those who haze me. Oh, Lord, raise me to Thy right hand and count me among Thy saints." My Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, Bob Ouellette said: What do you have against rain drop pattern? It doesn't seem like more of a pain than anything else. I have nothing against the pattern. I just think it looks best on something with broader bevels. 1 “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ouellette Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Oh, that's absolutely a fair point 1 Bob O "When I raise my flashing sword, and my hand takes hold on judgment, I will take vengeance upon mine enemies, and I will repay those who haze me. Oh, Lord, raise me to Thy right hand and count me among Thy saints." My Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ouellette Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I got at least 2x 9" chef's knives ground and 2 more to go. I also glued up another knife and finished the bench scraper I forged yesterday. I forged it from 1/4 x 2.5" to 1/16" x 5.5" and it was a colossal pain the whole time, but the variable chamber size of my new forge was real handy. Mild steel with a baked on oil finish and a bubinga handle. 3 Bob O "When I raise my flashing sword, and my hand takes hold on judgment, I will take vengeance upon mine enemies, and I will repay those who haze me. Oh, Lord, raise me to Thy right hand and count me among Thy saints." My Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joël Mercier Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I usually don't swear while hand sanding, but this is next level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I always swear while hand sanding, but I try to do it before HT so it's still relatively easy. Doing it at Rc64 is indeed hell! Personally, I had two half-days to play this weekend, so I made progress on another 18th century-style folder. The blade and spring are ready for HT, and I can't take the handle further until after assembly. The slabs are cow femur bone from a $4 dog chew. Next time, unless I really need THICK or extra-wide bone I'll just buy precut slabs. Sawing and grinding these down clogged my respirator filter twice. If time is money, it's just not worth it to spend three hours doing that. Prepared slabs big enough to fit this are $16 from Culpepper, and they're usually the most expensive option. Anyway, here it is with fit-up pins. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaro Petrina Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Not much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Dunlap Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 8 hours ago, Alan Longmire said: I always swear while hand sanding, but I try to do it before HT so it's still relatively easy. Doing it at Rc64 is indeed hell! I don't mean to hijack this thread,but how.do you hand sanding before heat treat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Dunlap Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I remade almost all of the components of my handle except the guard and the spacers before the WI butcap. I will definitely need to remake the butcap spacers next weekend as well. I am trying with this knife to make everything to the best of my ability. It may take more time, but I think the result will be worth it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 8 hours ago, Conan Dunlap said: I don't mean to hijack this thread,but how.do you hand sanding before heat treat? I always sand to 400 or even 600 before hardening. The stainless folder blades get sealed in HT foil to prevent scale and decarb, carbon steel get a coat of antiscale for the same reason. I'm lazy, so I try to minimize the amount of sanding hard steel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joël Mercier Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 hours ago, Alan Longmire said: I always sand to 400 or even 600 before hardening. The stainless folder blades get sealed in HT foil to prevent scale and decarb, carbon steel get a coat of antiscale for the same reason. I'm lazy, so I try to minimize the amount of sanding hard steel. Wish I could do that. I use anti scale, but the geometry of a chef won't allow hardening at final thickness without serious warps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Quite true. I plate-quench the thin folder stuff to prevent warps, but that won't work for the steel you're using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Sexstone Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I think that is the advantage of using Salt baths for heat treating… after hardening & tempering the surface only needs hand sanding ….My thin finished blade can be heat treated with with no warpage if sandwiched between blocks after coming out of a 325 degree quench … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Ouellette Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 On 3/20/2023 at 1:00 PM, Joël Mercier said: Wish I could do that. I use anti scale, but the geometry of a chef won't allow hardening at final thickness without serious warps. I just did 3 close to final thickness. They did indeed warp, but the straightening hammer I made worked fantastically. Bob O "When I raise my flashing sword, and my hand takes hold on judgment, I will take vengeance upon mine enemies, and I will repay those who haze me. Oh, Lord, raise me to Thy right hand and count me among Thy saints." My Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joël Mercier Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Bob Ouellette said: I just did 3 close to final thickness. They did indeed warp, but the straightening hammer I made worked fantastically. I've tried once and the edge went all wavy bacon. In other words, quenching with 0.005" at edge on a 2" wide full flat ground blade is a no go. Now I leave as much as I can without compromising full martensite conversion. I'm not saying your method is wrong, of course. To each it's own Still, I'm not convinced about the straightening hammer thing. Maybe @Jerrod Millercould help us clarify whether post HT hammer straightening weakens the steel or not, cause in my understanding, plastic deformation gets you closer to fracture point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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