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Finished another folder.  Little bitty bugger, 2.5" / 63mm closed, 4.5" / 112mm open.  O-1, brass liners, nickel silver bolsters and pins, ebony scales.  Still needs an edge and some cleanup, but it's

No knife work since right after Christmas, I've been in furniture mode.  The backstory:  I won a couple of steel scuba tanks with the bottom cut off at an iron-in-the-hat at my local blacksmith's guil

Been working on a blade for the past few days. It's a 9 1/4" 9 bar serpent core dagger - silver steel edges with a serpent of alternating 15n20 and 11 layer twist set in mild steel:  

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22 hours ago, Vern Wimmer said:

I'd think about a wire wheel for removing forge scale.

Possibly the most dangerous tool in the entire shop.

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@Gerald Boggs these questions are coming from someone who knows precious little about solid fuel forges (but owns one anyway) and I'm a bit confused by these two pics.

Why use a bed of dirt is it just an insulating medium? Is the hollow basically a hole in the dirt that you fill with coke/coal?

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I am more comfortable with a wire wheel than a buffing wheel, which is my #1 dangerous. Although almost every tool in our shops can wreak havoc on the human body.

When I looked at the Grizzly I wondered about using the extra end for a disk sander

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20 hours ago, Joshua States said:

@Gerald Boggs these questions are coming from someone who knows precious little about solid fuel forges (but owns one anyway) and I'm a bit confused by these two pics.

Why use a bed of dirt is it just an insulating medium? Is the hollow basically a hole in the dirt that you fill with coke/coal?

It is and it what gives the hole it shape.  

Yes, that's it, just a hollow.  I filled the box with dirt and then scooped out the size hole I wanted.  I didn't take a photo of it, but the finished hole is about twice as large.  The idea is to have the hole hold the fuel you need under the fire and then cover it with more.  About the same as a bottom blast firebox, except the air is coming from the side.  This isn't the only way to do it, but only the way I learned.

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23 hours ago, Vern Wimmer said:

I am more comfortable with a wire wheel than a buffing wheel, which is my #1 dangerous. Although almost every tool in our shops can wreak havoc on the human body.

When I looked at the Grizzly I wondered about using the extra end for a disk sander

I don't use a wire wheel on a setup like that anymore. I got tired of pulling little pieces of wire out of my arms and chest. If I need to take scale off of anything it goes in a bench vice and I attack with  wire cup on an angle grinder. Much safer.

2 hours ago, Gerald Boggs said:

It is and it what gives the hole it shape.  

Yes, that's it, just a hollow.  I filled the box with dirt and then scooped out the size hole I wanted.  I didn't take a photo of it, but the finished hole is about twice as large.  The idea is to have the hole hold the fuel you need under the fire and then cover it with more.  About the same as a bottom blast firebox, except the air is coming from the side.  This isn't the only way to do it, but only the way I learned.

Thanks. I have a coal forge that I have yet to set up, but I do have a project that needs one, so I'm trying to figure out how to set it up. It will be a bottom blast though, not a side blast.

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Look Daddy it's a ferrous wheel.

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23 minutes ago, Vern Wimmer said:

Look Daddy it's a ferrous wheel.

Nice try (and a good pun) but, no. Not a ferris wheel.

Any other guesses?

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Rifle rests for an Italian firing squad.?

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8 hours ago, Vern Wimmer said:

Rifle rests for an Italian firing squad.?

I'm unable to make the connection here. Is this an ethnic joke?

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51 minutes ago, Joshua States said:

I'm unable to make the connection here. Is this an ethnic joke?

Circular firing squad.

Just plug in any group.

Old joke from the days before the political correctness epidemic that destroyed the ability to laugh with one another and give and take jokes.

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2 minutes ago, Vern Wimmer said:

Circular firing squad.

Just plug in any group.

Old joke from the days before the political correctness epidemic that destroyed the ability to laugh with one another and give and take jokes.

If it was possible to offend me, I might have taken offense. I cannot speak for others of Italian descent who also attend this forum.

Wimmer doesn't sound Italian in origin (correct me, if I'm mistaken), why not use your own ethnic background? 

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In any case, all valiant attempts to identify the object, but none quite hit the mark. It's a belt rack for the 2x72 belts.

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1 minute ago, Joshua States said:

If it was possible to offend me, I might have taken offense. I cannot speak for others of Italian descent who also attend this forum.

Wimmer doesn't sound Italian in origin (correct me, if I'm mistaken), why not use your own ethnic background? 

Because going by name, and not ethnicity since i am largely Scottish with some Native American, "Wimmer" is German and they are known to be very efficient in that area. It would be like making a joke based on the fact that the Chinese can't eat with chopsticks.

 

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1 hour ago, Vern Wimmer said:

Because going by name, and not ethnicity since i am largely Scottish with some Native American, "Wimmer" is German and they are known to be very efficient in that area. It would be like making a joke based on the fact that the Chinese can't eat with chopsticks.

 

Gross generalizations are neither remotely funny nor true.

Look Vern, I'm from the northeast USA. Nobody understands the "insult as a joke" better than I do. It's deeply rooted culturally in the geographic area. When my buds and I hang out together, the insults fly and the laughing is loud. But I've known these guys for 40+ years and been through Hell and back with them. This isn't that comfy room with those guys. This is a different environment and a different set of people. It requires different behavior.

The problem I have with the viewpoint of "the days before the political correctness epidemic that destroyed the ability to laugh" is that it is usually expressed by people who choose not to think about what they say before they say it, especially concerning how it may be perceived by those listening. They simply assume that everyone within earshot is going to see it from their own perspective and be "in" on the joke factor. Like the whole world is their personal stand-up comedy stage and screw everyone else. 

"Manners maketh man" - William Wykeham

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It is sounding like a conversation I had with a "GenX'er" once. He was "bragging" about " how far we've come. They don't make racist movies like "Blazing Saddles" anymore" . He totally missed the point that by using humor Mel Brooks made the racists the butt of the joke and that Blazing Saddles was anything BUT a racist movie. He only saw it through the narrow lense of someone who wanted to find something in the past that was offensive so he could feel superior about himself in the present. The fact was I saw that movie the first time in a theater in inner city Portland and you couldn't have found a more racially mixed audience and EVERYONE laughed and had a good time. 

Go back to TV shows like Hogan's Hero's where Germans were depicted as bungling, you didn't hear Germans complaining about it they laughed right along. That is the true definition of "tolerance" tolerating and not getting offended. Getting offended is intolerance. We have grown so uptight about things that we are de-evolving back into our separate tribes every person has a half-dozen different descriptors and look out if they are on the prod and hear something that touches one of them and that gives the person the opportunity to be offended. Political correctness has not unified this Country it has merely created a cross-hatching of lines that dare not be crossed thereby separating people instead of uniting them. 

I was once offhandedly insulted by an older woman from New England when she found out I was part Native American. (Indian, casino not 7-11)

"You're an Indian? I nevah would have guessed. You seem so much smateh than that." 

"Well" I replied " I think the fact that I can pronounce the letter "R" makes me appear intelligent".

No big deal, life went on. She was on the board of directors for the museum I worked for. Yah, I could have knotted my panties in a wad and probably sued but instead I put on two successful entertainment festivals, raised more money than ever before and was the key person in fundraising and getting a new museum building. A small insult was swept aside and no harm was done. I didn't need a "safe space" to go to, I wasn't traumatized . I have still never been offended about a German, Indian, or Scottish joke. In fact I tell people the reason I quit drinking was that evertime I got a skin full I'd put on war paint and a kilt, grab a Mauser rifle and start marching towards Paris.

Humor bridged gaps now fear of saying something wrong is creating chasms.

 

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Perhaps this gave you the idea of an "Italian firing squad" being a goofy one. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D4cyr4Lvh-lQ&ved=0ahUKEwj7iMKxhJDcAhXmnuAKHUlqC0MQwqsBCCgwAA&usg=AOvVaw29u-3UP36KzmDhtBSsOyrt

Perhaps a manners class should be taught. I'll sit front row. On the other hand, I've always been taught to turn the other cheek, be slow to anger, and quick to forgive. I've been Iinsulted in the past, I could bring up topics on here that display poor manners as well as hypocracy (acting one way, then condemning me for the same wrong) towards me, but I never called anyone out, and I won't. We all make mistakes. Dragging someone through the mud is not the right way to handle things. Send a PM, the offender will appreciate that. 

I remember when my dog killed the neighbor's calf. He came to me and told me what had happened and if that dog killed another calf, he'd have no choice but to shoot him (in a nice way). I was just glad he let me know first. I fixed the problem and everyone lived happily ever after (on good terms). 

This forum is too cool for people to sweat over little things. It has a very homey atmosphere; like we're all just brothers and sister's of the craft; without discrimination. 

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After getting 1 stamp in and not liking it (completely my fault), ordered another one from a different company and am quite pleased. Going to be using this stamp to hot stamp my blades. I'm probably one of the only guys that is going from electro-etching to hot stamping. 

I don't know what it is but I really don't like dealing with stencils and etchant and coming back and hand sanding my ricasso and blade more from the lines and junk around my name that is left from the etcher. Also, because I like to etch really deep, I tend to burn through a bunch of stencils.

On top of that, I just like the look/feel of a stamp.

Anywho, got it in and milled a new piece to fit the stamp for the stamp holder I made. The holder itself has a 1" square bar on the bottom to fit into the hardie hole of my anvil.

StmpHolder.jpg

Quickly stamped a test blade (wasn't worried about it being straight) just to see what it would look like. Very pleased.

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Find an Italian member who is offended and I will apologize all to H%%% but being "offended" in someone else's stead is just an attempt to inflict an, ironically descrimminatory,  judgement to attempt to falsely claim some moral superiority. Let the people who are in the category mentioned decide if they are offended. 

Along with the link Zeb provided is a link to some Monty Python skits. Oh horrors!!! So much un-pc humor. The "lumberjack" sketch makes fun of Canadian and American lumberjacks. I am offended. We have to ban the movie "White Men Can't Jump" . It enforces stereotypes. Look at how many people "The Blues Brothers" might offend, Blacks, Black churches, blues musicians, country western musicians and fans, Catholics, law enforcement officers, felons, Chicagoans, I am in none of those groups but I am claiming my right to be offended in their place because someone in one of those groups might be offended. They were all the subjects of humor and that's not right.

When everyone has joined the pc police they can then report offenders to the thought police for punishment and then we can live in freedom the way the founders intended, right?

I am sorry for the hubbub folks I have never intended to politicize anything on this great forum. I do not think that those kind of jokes should be sprinkled throughout the forum and dont want the forum to be known for it.I simply made a harmless joke that is obviously not the type of thing I say here in jest but I still think it was funny. If you are Italian and offended you have a right to call me out on it and accept the resulting apology. If you aren't Italian take it up in a pm, we'll discuss it. 

Nobody even noticed the backhanded joke I made about German efficiency, were no other Germans offended, was no one offended by that stereotype of Germans ? Curious what we choose to be offended by.

 

 

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I have eaten more than my share of pizza; I therefore identify as an Italian, so may I stand in as being offended? (disclaimer: that is a joke...pizza is not even a real Italian dish.) All the so called PC stuff has gotten way out of hand, and in my opinion Vern is correct in saying we have moved backward in public relations as a result. I foresee much violence ahead in the world, unfortunately; perhaps we as people just have too much in common with our primate brethren. As a mixed race person who frequently gets tagged as white, I did enjoy the humor, and saw it for what it was.

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I think we can move along, gentlemen.  We are all (well, mostly) adults here, and hopefully human enough to agree to act like it.  I'm not calling anyone out, I am not offended, although I can see how it can happen.  As an Appalachian-American I've had my share of barefoot hillbilly jabs thrown my way.  I suggest we unruffle any feathers and go back to being the forum community we are.  And leave the ethnic jokes out of it, please.  Except for cheap Pakistani damascus, that is.  We have a duty to uphold quality, after all!  Make fun of the steel, that is, not the people.  Civility must be maintained or it all goes downhill fast.  Don't make me turn this car around, in other words. ;)

Points to Zeb for the Python sketches,  and Cody, nice stamp!

And I really should build a belt hanger, mine are hanging from screws in the rafters and on an old coat rack.  Nice design, Josh!

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20 minutes ago, Alan Longmire said:

Nice design, Josh!

I admit I cannot take credit for the design. I saw a similar one in a post by Ed Caffrey. I used to have belts hanging from nails in the edge of a shelf, but I found the J-weight belts didn't like being wrapped around a tight radius. So I cut some pieces of cardboard tube and steel pipe, put those over the nails, and hung the belts. I don't have the shelf over the grinder in this shop so I had to create something that could hang from the ceiling.

Belts (2)-opt.jpg

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