Conner Michaux 158 Posted April 2 Thanks for the info @Bruno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan Longmire 1,795 Posted April 2 Practice. You have the noob grind on it, just start there and slowly press the blade into the belt while adding pressure towards the spine. Watch from the side to make sure you're not going all the way up and leaving a divot in the spine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerald Boggs 142 Posted April 2 On 3/30/2019 at 5:23 PM, Mike Ward said: Howard’s Butcher Block Conditioner https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjc17OwobLhAhXlNX0KHaI8CRQQFjABegQIAxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.howardproducts.com%2Ffiles%2Fsds%2FHOW-114_Butcher-Block-Conditioner-1.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2QjWR5XI3YfB_gCSfcbp-X Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewB 151 Posted April 2 3 hours ago, Alan Longmire said: Practice. You have the noob grind on it, just start there and slowly press the blade into the belt while adding pressure towards the spine. Watch from the side to make sure you're not going all the way up and leaving a divot in the spine. Yea I've still got the "Noob" grind going lol. I've been trying to work on that a bit more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Ward 75 Posted April 2 @Gerald Boggs are you just providing information on the conditioner or is there something specific that you find alarming? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conner Michaux 158 Posted April 2 Ive got another quick question. Can I use a leather wheel with some stropping compound on a bench grinder to get my knives razor sharp?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joshua States 1,007 Posted April 3 I have been a finish grinding, hand sanding maniac. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joshua States 1,007 Posted April 3 (edited) 6 hours ago, AndrewB said: Yea I've still got the "Noob" grind going lol. I've been trying to work on that a bit more. Do you have a wheel, or just a flat platen? https://youtu.be/_5WtQOWoc4s https://youtu.be/il88qhfoJnQ Edited April 3 by Joshua States Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewB 151 Posted April 3 21 minutes ago, Joshua States said: Do you have a wheel, or just a flat platen? Flat platen no tool rest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Weller 212 Posted April 3 29 minutes ago, Joshua States said: I have been a finish grinding, hand sanding maniac. Those are looking pretty sweet! That's a ton of work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerhard Gerber 215 Posted April 3 @Joshua States I'm so sick & tired of welding and grinding and canopy-building I actually thought wistfully about hand sanding yesterday! roflmao Looking good....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan Longmire 1,795 Posted April 3 11 hours ago, Conner Michaux said: Ive got another quick question. Can I use a leather wheel with some stropping compound on a bench grinder to get my knives razor sharp?? You can, but only if it's sharp enough to benefit from stropping in the first place. Stropping just polishes, it does not sharpen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerald Boggs 142 Posted April 3 12 hours ago, Mike Ward said: just providing information on the conditioner That Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joshua States 1,007 Posted April 3 (edited) 8 hours ago, AndrewB said: Flat platen no tool rest If you forge your blades, start forging the bevels in, all the way up to about 1/4" below the spine. That will establish a base that you can grind to. If you are working stock removal from flat stock, get some good flat bastard and mill files. establish the bevel with files first, and clean up on the flat platen and grinder. Edited April 3 by Joshua States Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewB 151 Posted April 3 57 minutes ago, Joshua States said: If you forge your blades, start forging the bevels in, all the way up to about 1/4" below the spine. That will establish a base that you can grind to. If you are working stock removal from flat stock, get some good flat bastard and mill files. establish the bevel with files first, and clean up on the flat platen and grinder. The two blades that I'm working on right now are pure stock removal. Nothing but grinder work with these two. I watched your video 2nd one last night I do like the surface grinder set up, that I wouldn't mind having myself. Also ordered myself a nice little 100 pound pull magnet last night as well lol. I needed one anyway. Thanks to an amazon credit from Customer Service I literally paid nothing for it lmfao. Yesterday I had to go through crap just to change out the blade in my band saw. The screws in my metal cutting bandsaw were in so tight that I couldn't break them by hand, no I don't have a philips head drill bit. So I wound up stripping the screws oddly enough trying to get them out. In the end welp ANGLE GRINDER time. Ground off the two problem screws and took off the cover changed out my band saw blade. It was pretty irritating that I had to grind off two of the screws just to take the cover off to change the blade. Talk about a bunch of BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewB 151 Posted April 3 (edited) Drilled out the pin holes in the first stock removal project and cut the brass pins for it. Just need good dry weather to do the heat treatment. I also ordered a couple of bi metal 62 inch blades for band saw in case I want to do a couple of bolsters. I'll have a much easier time cutting them out. Maybe? I dunno. But at least I'll be able to cut metal with the ryobi now as well. Hurry up and wait for the blades lol. Edited April 3 by AndrewB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conner Michaux 158 Posted April 3 5 hours ago, Alan Longmire said: You can, but only if it's sharp enough to benefit from stropping in the first place. Stropping just polishes, it does not sharpen. How do I know if it’s sharp enough? I have a wicked edge sharpener, and the highest grit stone is 600..... I think?? Can’t remember right now. I need a few more stones, but right now I can’t get it shaving sharp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewB 151 Posted April 3 5 minutes ago, Conner Michaux said: How do I know if it’s sharp enough? I have a wicked edge sharpener, and the highest grit stone is 600..... I think?? Can’t remember right now. I need a few more stones, but right now I can’t get it shaving sharp. Got any tomatoes in your refrigerator? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Weller 212 Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, Conner Michaux said: I need a few more stones, but right now I can’t get it shaving sharp Honestly, if the edge geometry is right it should be as "sharp" as it going to get with the coarsest stone... Everything from there is just refining the edge, making it smoother. After the coarsest stone the bevels should be set and the edge should be sharp, but it's like a serrated blade on a microscopic level. The subsequent stones and even the strop is just refining those original bevels. I don't know about other people, but if I can't effortlessly cut paper after my coarsest stone, I'm not done with that stone yet (make sure your not fighting the burr). Hope that helps. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conner Michaux 158 Posted April 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, AndrewB said: Got any tomatoes in your refrigerator? Always! Thanks Adam that does help. Edited April 3 by Conner Michaux Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewB 151 Posted April 3 If you can slice a tomato with it and not destroy the fruit then you know it's good. Paper works okay too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan Longmire 1,795 Posted April 3 52 minutes ago, Adam Weller said: Honestly, if the edge geometry is right it should be as "sharp" as it going to get with the coarsest stone... Everything from there is just refining the edge, making it smoother. After the coarsest stone the bevels should be set and the edge should be sharp, but it's like a serrated blade on a microscopic level. The subsequent stones and even the strop is just refining those original bevels. I don't know about other people, but if I can't effortlessly cut paper after my coarsest stone, I'm not done with that stone yet (make sure your not fighting the burr). Hope that helps. If I could pin a single post, I'd do it with this one. Well said! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conner Michaux 158 Posted April 3 (edited) Drilled the pin hole and the lanyard hole, and the rest are for weight loss, Im going to use Copper pins for this one, Copper looks really good on dark colored wood, so Ive looked at Bog oak, Gaboon Ebony, and Wenge, Im probably going to go with the Ebony, I really wanted to use Stabilized Mammoth tooth, But that is waaaaay to expensive. My local Hardwood store sells the Gaboon ebony. Maybe Ill use carbon fiber... What do you do to finish Carbon fiber? Because Im pretty sure linseed oil wont do anything to it. Edited April 3 by Conner Michaux 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Weller 212 Posted April 3 21 minutes ago, Alan Longmire said: If I could pin a single post, I'd do it with this one. Well said! Thanks Alan... I must admit it took me far to long to figure this out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conner Michaux 158 Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Adam Weller said: Honestly, if the edge geometry is right it should be as "sharp" as it going to get with the coarsest stone... Everything from there is just refining the edge, making it smoother. After the coarsest stone the bevels should be set and the edge should be sharp, but it's like a serrated blade on a microscopic level. The subsequent stones and even the strop is just refining those original bevels. I don't know about other people, but if I can't effortlessly cut paper after my coarsest stone, I'm not done with that stone yet (make sure your not fighting the burr). Hope that helps. So after a 200 grit stone I should be able to melt through paper?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites