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So I'm at work yesterday morning and this fellow who works in my department approaches me with a question.

(he knows I make knives).
Evidently his father is in his 80's and they are starting the preparations for dad getting low. The both of them are avid hunters and outdoors-men and the have seen the PBS NOVA special about he Viking Sword. They thought it would be a great idea if they could find someone who could take some of dad's ashes when the time comes and "forge" them into a knife blade for the son to carry/keep/pass on as a family heirloom etc. Being that I am the only person he knows who "forges" blades, he was wondering if I was interested or not. (Dad is not anywhere near passing BTW).
I quickly explained the difference between forging and smelting and that I didn't actually smelt the steel, but I had access to a forum with people who did. I said I would inquire on the forum and see if anyone would consider this.

So, if the idea of taking someone's ashes and using them in a steel melt sometime in the future appeals to you, send me a PM with your preferred contact info and I will pass it on.

 

Thanks guys.

“So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.”

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I was thinking shear steel with the carbon source being maybe a favorite chair and enough ashes to fill the can, but I don't know how much if any elemental transfer would take place. Too bad crematories don't do partial reduction...

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I think it's the thought that counts, rather than the actual science.

I remember in that PBS NOVA special, there was a point where someone, suggested using bones as the carbon source in the crucible, but they didn't necessarily elaborate as to what quality or what condition those "bones" would be in. People sometimes tend to retain small pieces of data with or without context. To the layman, these "bones" somehow get infused with the steel. It really doesn't matter whether it's factual or not.

“So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.”

The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing.  

 

Josh

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg

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I get this question about once every other month.

Cremated ashes are reduced to calcium and phos and not much else.........no carbon to speak of.

Arguably some of the phos would make it into the metal, but how much depends.

 

You are better off having it sealed in blown glass and fix it to the fittings.

 

Ric

Richard Furrer

Door County Forgeworks

Sturgeon Bay, WI

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Just for clarification:

This thread was not intended to become a discussion of whether or not this is possible, logical, or otherwise insane.

(although you are welcome to do so, it is not my interest though)

If you are a smelter, and would be interested in talking to this person about what he has in mind (even possibly offering alternatives) send me a PM with your preferred contact info and I will pass it along.

 

Thanks.

“So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.”

The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing.  

 

Josh

http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg

J.States Bladesmith | Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71

https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith

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