Justin Mercier Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I use propane the vast majority of the time because usually I'm only doing blades, but there have been some projects which I have wanted to do, making things for around the house like a new corner shelf for the upstairs bathroom and the like for which my propane forges are too restrictive in their size to do larger pieces of ironwork. I learned with coal and used to demonstrate with coal, but after I stopped demonstrating I sold my coal forge to another who was starting out. One of the problems with the old forge and most coal forges in general is they're big, heavy, and hard to move around. At the New England Blacksmith's spring meet this year, one of the projects was to build 6 new coal forges for the NEB trailer for setting up green-coal at the NEB meets. The new design NEB forge would be take-down, with interchangeable parts, and stack-able, and much lighter weight. The 6 forges would take the same space as the one prior forge, and all 6 combined would weigh about the same as the one they are replacing. NEB also has cast for the club their own fire-pot design which is much heavier duty than those commercially available elsewhere. I've owned an NEB firepot for some time but still had never got around to fabricating a forge, but with the new NEB design it fit my purposes perfectly. Since I use propane most of the time, I wanted any coal forge I had to be able to be put away without taking too much space. Bob Lavoie of Lavoie welding and fabrication had cut out all the parts for the NEB forges with his CNC plasma table and did the bends with his big press brake, and at the meet I asked him if, since he already had the design programed, I could buy a 'do it yourself' kit from him and build my own. The original NEB forge You can see the stacked forge tables in this image from the spring meet, and the un-finished hoods and legs, This was also a perfect chance for me to learn and practice welding. I helped out at the spring meet and got enough tips from real welders to go home and actually stick pieces together. While nothing to write home about, at least it looks sorta right. The sockets on the bottom are made to fit the legs without the need for bolts, by welding an angle iron to the inside of the gussets to make tall sockets., but I may in the future drill some holes and weld some nuts and add some T bolts to remove the little bit of wobbliness The firepot drops right in, although the clinker breaker handle gives it a bit of a hassle lifting straight up and down cleanly. The tuyre is fabricated, not cast. The hood goes on the short-side of the table, hanging out behind the back. A pair of tabs are welded to the sides to bolt through the top of the table to give stability. Most of the welding in this project is actually in the hood. After welding the top and back in, the support for a 10 inch stove pipe, made from a strip of steel bent in a circle, and the front draft scoop for the hood need to be welded on still, as well as the tabs for the hood and the bases of the feet. All complete! By the time I was done my welds were noticeably better than when I started, and I even got to the point where I could push the capacity of the welder itself. Unfortunately my welder is not very high powered, it's just a Lincoln 110v Mig designed for auto-work, and I did all this with a roll of flux-core rather than getting shielding gas. I did get to the point where i was tripping the 20a circuit breaker welding though and pushing the duty cycle of the machine. I kind of regret having not spent more on a 220v welder when I bought this one years ago, but it did the job fine, and this is the first time i've really had to use it beyond ugly 'gorilla welds' on the frame of a truck or car. As you can probably see, my shop is a jammed packed MESS with far too much equipment and far too little space, another reason why I need the coal forge to not take up much room when not in use. I have a Champion 400 pedestal blower for the coal forge, but i may also fix up an electric blower for compactness and portability, since the pedestal blower is kind of a pain to take places, the total loss oil system tends to leave a mess if you lay it down. --- Justin "Tharkis" Mercier www.tharkis.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karim Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Good progress, love to see it in action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Dougherty Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Nice! -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Nice indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoy's Forge Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 prepare to blow yellow smoke www.hoyfamily.net Isa 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.Lu 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Mr 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 What a great build! I said I was going to put my coal forge together in the spring, but I didn't say which spring....... Now I have some sort of plan to work from. Thanks. “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Nice forge. Nice shop but why so neat? Neat car, MG TD? Was that the NEB meet in Brentwood, NH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Mercier Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Trust me, the shop is not neat, otherwise there wouldnt be tools and machines scattered everywhere in there and no room to move =D I had to push around a bunch of tables just to have enough room to fabricate this. The car is a TR6 Hathaway Hunter roadster, a rare kit car designed for a Triumph TR6 Here's one (the only other i've seen for sale) that was on ebay last week. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-Triumph-Hathaway-Hunter-/112028894433?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=Uwbbr2gOxFr3t%252BrR8b51rwBmEzw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc Yes, this was the NEB meet in Brentwood at the beginning of the month. My photos from the meet can be seen at http://www.tharkis.com/nebspring16.html --- Justin "Tharkis" Mercier www.tharkis.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I guess neat by my standards! And I know about moving stuff to work on something but I keep telling myself it is getting better. Interesting car - do you get it out to drive? Nice bunch of pictures too. I drive by the NEB place frequently and meant to stop in and check out what you folks were doing there. Its shameful that I have not stopped in the years that I have lived just 10 minutes from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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