Eric Dennis Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Hello, If applying ITC-100 to an insulating brick is it advantageous to first coat the brick with a refractory? I know that you want to do this when coating ceramic wool, but the brick is already a rigid surface. Will the ITC stick OK to the soft brick when applied in the normal fashion? Thanks in advance, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBrackett Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 I've done it without any obvious issues. 4 year running with no issues on my general use forge. ”Whoever pursues righteousness and love finds life, prosperity, and honor!” George Brackett American Bladesmith's Society, Apprentice Member Hialeah, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Coe Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Soft brick will break down due to the high heat of a forge. An IR product may help by reflecting infrared rays and therefore some of the heat back into the forge. ITC 100 costs about $75.00 per pint. I sell Plistix for $15.00 per pint and Metrikote for $20.00 per pint. Do you really want to spend $75.00 when other products will do the same job. Let me know if I can help you. Wayne 1 Wayne Coe Artist Blacksmith 729 Peters Ford Road Sunbright, Tennessee 706-273-8017waynecoe@highland.netwww.WayneCoeArtistBlacksmith.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Dennis Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 The soft bricks I have are rated for 2800F, should be fine I imagine. I already have a small amount of ITC from a previous project so for now I'll use that- but in the future I plan on trying one of your alternative products because, no, I don't want to pay that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Dennis Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 So i guess the answer is, yes? I can use it directly on soft bricks without an undercoat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Ysselstein Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Eric I would not do that. That material will likely cause the brick to crack ( my experience with my own refractory material ). The expansion rate of the two materials will be different and the fired itc-100 will be very strong and it will heat up first. Play with it and try it or work out a method of application which does not bond the two materials together strongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBrackett Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 The secret to it is to mixed it thin and brush it on. This is mine running 4 years later with no cracks or seperation. I coated it like a wash twice in 2011. Now I don't travel with it or move it while it's hot. ”Whoever pursues righteousness and love finds life, prosperity, and honor!” George Brackett American Bladesmith's Society, Apprentice Member Hialeah, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Dennis Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 That forge is firebrick or ceramic wool lined? Sorry I just can't tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBrackett Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Two soft fire bricks with a metal liner to protect the bricks. ”Whoever pursues righteousness and love finds life, prosperity, and honor!” George Brackett American Bladesmith's Society, Apprentice Member Hialeah, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Dennis Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Ahh, I see it now- it looked bigger at first. Thanks! I'll try just dabbing it on with a brush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBrackett Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 It's just two bricks side by side. Single burner. Works just fine forging knives. I've made tools that are about 22" blade length in it before. ”Whoever pursues righteousness and love finds life, prosperity, and honor!” George Brackett American Bladesmith's Society, Apprentice Member Hialeah, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Abbott Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I bought a forge very similar to that one from Len Landrum. One of the best investments I've ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBrackett Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Don my other one was made by him. I copied it for my second one. Still have the one he made and use it to travel with. I tried to get a second one from him but, his website disappeared, and my friend Bill told me his wife wasn't doing well back then. This is a great design and was not that hard to make. He's reference to Len's forges: http://elliscustomknifeworks.hightemptools.com/ForgeGallery/My_Homepage_Files/Page8.html Edited September 23, 2016 by GBrackett ”Whoever pursues righteousness and love finds life, prosperity, and honor!” George Brackett American Bladesmith's Society, Apprentice Member Hialeah, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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