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JohnHare

Pawn shop anvil?

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Going to check this anvil out in an hour. Looks like a 65 pound ferrier anvil. I plan to do blade work and general black smithing.

 

I'd like a 144 pounder but this may be the best I've had a chance to buy, usually they are gone immediately in my area. If you have seen some of my other posts I've come across some real junk. I also missed my shot on a decent 200lb anvil which was a tough day.

How much do you think this weighs? Any comments? I brought a hammer with me to give it a ring and I also have a 1" ball bearing for rebound.

 

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Looks around 75lbs or so.  It's not a farrier's anvil, just an ordinary American pattern.  Hay-Budden, Trenton, or similar.  

Check the ring and rebound, look for damage (although it looks okay in that bad picture), and it's worth it to you go for it.  It's a little steep to me, but then I'm not in the market.

If you get it, promise you won't take it anywhere near a machine shop!

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Thank you. Ring sounded OK (though I'm not an expert) rebound was maybe only 60-75%.  I tried to talk him down to $200 but he said there were already 3 people on the way in to see it and I believe him.

 

I went ahead and picked it up here are some more pictures now that it's in my truck.

I could have done better, but I've also been kept from doing a lot worse from help on this forum. I think this will get me started until I can grab something nice off ebay. Feels about 75lbs.

I will clean it up with a grinder with a wire brush and post a couple  more pictures once it's cleaned up.

I want to grind the bad tip down so it's more rounded also, unless this is a bad idea.

 

John.

 

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Yeah, you can reshape the horn.  It's just wrought iron anyway.  It's the face you have to be careful about removing material from.

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Knocked the rust off with a wire cup brush on my grinder and oiled it down. Unfortunately now that the rust is off the edges aren't as nice as I thought. I have little experience so I'm sure it'll be ok for me starting out.

At work we have an old scale that I weighed the anvil on and it came out to 100lb on the dot which is a little heavier than I thought. The scale hangs from the ceiling with a hook so I didn't have a way to verify it to make sure it was accurate unfortunately.

No markings that I can see but the bottom of the anvil has an oval depression that I read can be an indication of a Trenton or Arm & hammer anvil.

 

Here are some more photos.

 

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1 hour ago, JohnHare said:

Knocked the rust off with a wire cup brush on my grinder and oiled it down. Unfortunately now that the rust is off the edges aren't as nice as I thought. I have little experience so I'm sure it'll be ok for me starting out.

At work we have an old scale that I weighed the anvil on and it came out to 100lb on the dot which is a little heavier than I thought. The scale hangs from the ceiling with a hook so I didn't have a way to verify it to make sure it was accurate unfortunately.

No markings that I can see but the bottom of the anvil has an oval depression that I read can be an indication of a Trenton or Arm & hammer anvil.

 

Here are some more photos. ORfzmnZl.jpg

You see the line across the top of this pic, that is your steel plate I do believe. That is why Alan was saying be careful about removing material from!

 

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6 minutes ago, C Craft said:

You see the line across the top of this pic, that is your steel plate I do believe. That is why Alan was saying be careful about removing material from!

Yes, I see that, it is much clearer now all the rust is off. I only took a grinding wheel to the tip of the horn, the rest was done with a wire cup brush on the grinder, good for paint and rust, doesn't wear the steel much. I was surprised at how eaten away it is. I can't find any serial numbers, markings etc anywhere.

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Yep, that's pretty rusty!  Whatever mark it had is long gone.  I lean towards Trenton, unless the underside of the heel shows really strong hammer marks. 

It's still in better shape than my first anvil.

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