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I picked up a  damascus double shotgun barrel set over the weekend.  It's a pattern called  Crolle (I think) and our research leads us to think that they are from a Parker.  Here is my dilemma, I bought them with the intent of cutting them up for spacers and such, then I had the thought of building a steampunk, flintlock, coach gun.  Now I'm starting tho think they might have value to a collector (more than the few $ I paid).  

So what does the collective wisdom think?  Am I risking the wrath of the universe if I mess with them?

Just asking

Geoff

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Can you identify the shotgun they came from Geoff and what condition they are in, as that would be the place to start a value consideration. I am on a couple of forums that have very knowledgable members for this type of enquiery

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They appear to be Parker from about 1923-24, so pre Remington.  There are some other marks, and I've joined a the Parker shotgun forum to see what I can find out.  29 7/8th inch barrel and it's either a 15 gauge (which seems unlikely) or a very worn (or over bored) 16 gauge.  The condition is fair, dirty and a couple of dents, the locking blocks are worn but would probably still work.  

Geoff

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I picked up one with a simple twist pattern, went and did a ton of research on it, curious also to see if it could harden up at all (ended up testing that; nope, not really). Very little value so far as refurbishing or selling either, most folks say it's just a wall hanger. Unfortunately I didn't think to bookmark the research I did. I'm keeping mine for general fittings 

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I thought the were 16ga, and got several people excited.  It turns out they are 12ga and not so cool.  At first I was thinking ferrules and other things (shotgun wedding rings :lol:).  Now I'm thinking that I could make a cut-n-shoot flinter coach gun, and maybe a side-by-side howdah pistol.  Not to shoot, really, though I guess you could sleeve them down to .500, but just for the fun of making them.

Geoff

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Or, maybe you could split and flatten them out, and make san mai with them and a hardenable core!

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I have a couple of damascus shotgun barrels I want to make into san mai blades. Am I right in thinking that they are silver brazed together, and I can just sweat them apart in a gas forge, split the individual barrels with a slitting disc on an angle grinder, and forge them flat?

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Jake,  

a propane torch and a wedge are all you need to progressively lift out the soft-soldered ribs. Melt a bit, wedge apart, melt a bit more, slide the wedge , repeat. Once the ribs are out then you can repeat the technique for separating barrels from each other and the spacer blocks.

There should be videos on You-tube about re-soldering loose ribs, and as the first step is to remove the rib completely  . . .

 cheers,

Tony

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Geoff, from what I am seeing they are not to bad of shape. I believe I would do a little research and talk to some in the know. You may be sitting on a pile of money to someone who is looking to restore and old piece! MyO2 anyway!! You can always cut em up later if they prove to not be worth much!

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So I picked up one at an antique store a while back, decided to try it out yesterday. Brazing came apart no problem, cut a slit down the center, and welded some W2 core into there. I'm extremely inexperienced with forge welding (I could really use a press), so this is one of the heights for me in that area. Forged into a tanto, today I'll be able to clean it up and we'll see what the pattern looks like and how many flaws I have. 

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It turns out they are not worth much, about $100.  If they were 16ga, folks would be all over them.  They have some corrosion in the bore and a couple of poinks, here and there.  I'm going to talk to some of the blackpowder folks in the spring about perhaps sleeving them down and converting them to flint and making a coach gun.  Or not, I'm in no hurry.

 

Geoff

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