Joel Minturn 0 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I thought I would share this video for the other beginners here. This wasn't something I really thought about, I mean how difficult can it be to throw a hammer right? But He has some good techniques and thoughts on this very basic mechanic. So I found it informative and hope others will as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Zeb Camper 780 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I have no formal training whatsoever, So I swing like the people he said not to swing like (lifting the hammer straight up and back down without much wrist action like a carpender). I tried his method on some pieces of wood on the anvil yesterday and I found it much easier on everything. Usually my nerve from my thumb to my elbow starts to sting with a 4lb. hammer, and with lifting heavy things. I assumed I pinched a nerve either when I broke my back, or when I had a bad car wreck a couple years back, but I didn't feel it when I used his technique. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
DBain 15 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Interesting, seems like beginners would be giving up a considerable amount of control using this technique. Purely speculation, as I have not swung a hammer in that manner. Link to post Share on other sites
Alan Longmire 2,740 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) The guy is exactly right. I don't put as much wrist action into the top of the swing, but he's dead on about how to grip, lift, and swing. I learned these methods almost 20 years ago because I have an old rotator cuff injury on my hammer arm shoulder. It has never bothered me due to hammering, only overhead machete work. And it turns out what I thought was tennis elbow is psoriatic arthritis which is now under control. Listen to this guy, in other words. Edited to add: except the bigger hammer thing, with certain exceptions. Edited January 2, 2018 by Alan Longmire Link to post Share on other sites
Joshua States 1,722 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 He keeps the horn on the right side........unusual. Link to post Share on other sites
Joël Mercier 525 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I believe slimmer handles also helps promote softer grip. Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Mulkey 1,346 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/2/2018 at 2:28 PM, Joshua States said: He keeps the horn on the right side........unusual. As do I. Maybe this is because unlike a typical blacksmith, I rarely use the very end of the horn. Most of my work on the horn is from the middle of the horn back toward the cutting shelf. Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Mulkey 1,346 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) I agree with most of what this guy is saying. Make the tool do most of the work and not your arm (and never your shoulder or back). Like him I got my start using a hammer as a carpenter. At that time there were no air nailers and it was expected for me to go through a 50 lb box of nails each day. I eventually learned how not to overwork my arm. Probably the best tip this guy gave us is to keep your thumb off of the hammer handle. Swing the hammer and don't push it. Another tip that I would give to beginners is to stick with hickory handles for your hammers. They will impart less stress to your arm & elbow than other materials do. And don't be scared to customize the handle on your factory made hammer(s). Not every one is built the same and "one size does not fit all". I find that I use my shoulder much less than this guy and have less of a back swing. I find that there is no need for a large backswing which only makes accurate hammer blows more difficult but I guess that much of that is personal preference. Another tip for you beginners which will save your back & arm is to set your anvil at the right height. Stand next to your anvil and let your arm hang loosely at your side with your hand in a fist. The bottom of your fist should be a couple of inches above the anvil face. Believe me, this will help the wear & tear on your back. This guy was demonstrating the use of a 10 lb sledge but something that I would like to add so novices don't get the wrong idea is that most anvils aren't large enough to get the benefit out of a hammer that heavy. I believe in the old adage that the anvil should weight 40 times as much as your heaviest hammer. Many don't realize it but the anvil (when used correctly) will move just as much steel up as the hammer moves down. All-in-all this guy has the right idea. I have several friends who instruct beginning bladesmithing courses and each of them spends time with the beginning students showing how to swing a hammer. Good stuff! Edited January 5, 2018 by Gary Mulkey 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Dougherty 1,171 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/2/2018 at 3:28 PM, Joshua States said: He keeps the horn on the right side........unusual. I've seen this with guys who frequently use hardy tools. Allows them to keep the tool in the anvil with less risk of bashin their knuckles on it. Link to post Share on other sites
Alan Longmire 2,740 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Yep. I was once told "Blacksmiths keep the horn to the left, artistes keep it to the right because they're special." It's actually because most of the last generation of artist blacksmiths trained in Germany or Austria, where the double-horned anvil with the hardy hole to the left is the standard. It does allow you to leave the tool in the hole a bit more safely, unless you're using the round horn as designed. (This is for right-handed smiths only, of course.) For those who don't know, the round horn on the left allows a right-handed smith to roll a ring or hoop (think hub band or horseshoe) tangent to the horn without having to cross the hammer hand over the tong hand or even change position at the anvil. It's awkward to do that if you're right-handed and the horn is pointing right. If you don't use the horn much or at all, it doesn't matter a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Kirkley 5 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Alan. I Enjoy blacksmithing as a hobby. I never thought about which side the horn is on. For what ever reason I usually have it on the right. I am not sure I follow your example of needing to cross the hammer hand over the tongs to forge a hoop with the horn on the right. The attached photo shows how I set up for this. Link to post Share on other sites
Alan Longmire 2,740 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Do you have to take a step to one side? It's not a huge deal regardless, it's just tradition. Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Kirkley 5 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Yes, I step to the right. Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter-Paul Derks 210 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I own a german anvil with an upsetting block, when the block is on the far side on the anvil the horn automatically points to the left. The upsetting block would get in the way when you turn the horn to the right. For anvils without a block it doesnt really matter, but the horn to the left seems to be traditional here in europe. Link to post Share on other sites
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