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20 hours ago, Zeb Camper said:

Ok, I guess it's settled. Guess I'll just make a pair of kamas. Not quite as cool, but whatever... Dumb laws <_<.

Don't let paranoia get in the way of what you want to achieve. After all, when everyone is out to get you, being paranoid is just a good plan.

Seriously though, make the item you want to make. If it comes down to the recipient not being able to accept the item because of some legal technicalities, we can burn that bridge when we get to it. Vern may be correct about all that "intended use" mumbo-jumbo, but what is the likely hood of it actually being enforcable? If owning a small hand scythe and a separate piece of cord, rope or chain was illegal, half the population of Scots farmers would be subject to arrest. 

On the off-chance that someone gets this as their KITH, and they cannot legally accept it, I am sure someone will trade with them.

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It may sound surprising but I actually agree completely with Joshua. Almost everything is illegal somewhere. We'd get nowhere if we limited ourselves to making knives that were legal everywhere in the world. The handmade and factory market would be pretty limited. 

Go for what you are inspired to make and the details will work themselves out, it's magic after all:D

My concern is that I HAVE seen home made "loopholes" turn into hand tied nooses. Given we are discussing the exchange of the products of artistic expression, maybe even religious, I doubt anyone in the US would mess with it. But forewarning and awareness isn't a bad thing. 

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Definitely Zeb. Go where the muse takes you. We’ll worry about the rest if and when we get to it.

If I did win it and had to swop it out I’ll just have to cry myself to sleep for a week or so.

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As an aside, given that you guys incarcerate a higher proportion of your people than any other country on earth, given that a quarter of all prisoners, globally, reside in American jails  (many of which operate as slave plantations for profit), and given that your citizens now lose more property to asset forfeiture than to crime, you might want to be a bit more circumspect when throwing the word 'Draconian' towards another nation's judicial system...

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Incarceration rates shouldn't be shocking if you have a basic understanding of human nature and a bit of common sense. We have more freedom and more rights than most nations therefore there are more opportunities for people to abuse those freedoms and rights to the detriment of others. The only way to keep a right from being abused is to take it away from everyone. No rights = less chance if incarceration for abusing rights.

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1 hour ago, Zeb Camper said:

kusarigama

I will be looking forward to the kusarigama WIP and im going to start my WIP next week I would start it tomorrow but i just went into atrial fibrillation and they had to use the paddles to get my heart to get back into rhythm so my chest is a little sore and i dont feel like swinging a hammer. And it will give me ti.e to come up with a few sketches.

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21 minutes ago, Jeremy Blohm said:

I will be looking forward to the kusarigama WIP and im going to start my WIP next week I would start it tomorrow but i just went into atrial fibrillation and they had to use the paddles to get my heart to get back into rhythm so my chest is a little sore and i dont feel like swinging a hammer. And it will give me ti.e to come up with a few sketches.

Holy crap man! Are you ok to be forging? Prayers headed your way my man. 

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24 minutes ago, Zeb Camper said:

Holy crap man! Are you ok to be forging? Prayers headed your way my man. 

Oh yeah never been better. I have a steroid injection in my spine on the 15th so i hope to get started before that but if not the end of the month. I have a lot going on but i will be OK ;)

Edit: thanks for the prayers!!!

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1 hour ago, Jeremy Blohm said:

I will be looking forward to the kusarigama WIP and im going to start my WIP next week I would start it tomorrow but i just went into atrial fibrillation and they had to use the paddles to get my heart to get back into rhythm so my chest is a little sore and i dont feel like swinging a hammer. And it will give me ti.e to come up with a few sketches.

My wife has periodic AF. It's nothing to mess with. Take it easy. As a matter of fact, why don't you take the rest of the week off ? I'll put it down as " A research sabbatical" on your time card.;)

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2 minutes ago, Vern Wimmer said:

My wife has periodic AF. It's nothing to mess with. Take it easy. As a matter of fact, why don't you take the rest of the week off ? I'll put it down as " A research sabbatical" on your time card.;)

Seriously though, listen to Vern, and your doctor especially. 

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I have to see a specialist in the coming weeks im only 30 years old and i feel like im falling apart. The reason i took up this craft was to strengthen the muscles in my back. My physical therapist says she can see a noticeable difference in the thoracic muscle on the right side if my back. She says its almost like a hunch back on my right side.

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We can carry pretty much whatever here in Arkansas, so if anyone gets an illegal kith, I'm open to trading ;)

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@Jeremy Blohm You look after yourself mate. Thoughts and prayers with you. Also, you might want to learn left handed forging so you don’t go lop-sided.

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I drew up a magical picture of the kama, and was messing around with the effects on my cell phone editor. Wouldn't you know it looks way cooler in negative!

I start on this tomarrow!!! It's bitter cold in Virginia right now, but hopefully the forge will keep me toasty. 

I gotta go to woodcraft to pick out some oak or something real tough. Probably try to find some wrought iron chain...

Hope you guys are going to have as much fun making your magic tool as I plan to! 

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See if they have hickory, oak is tough and would definitely work but it also can be a pain in the ass for wanting to come off in splinters when your shaping it. 

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I agree with Jonathan. Hickory or ash would both be as strong without the working issues that oak has

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Black locust is a good choice up there with hickory.  But doesn't have much character unless you get a chunk of burl.

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I wonder if a sledge hammer handle would be fat enough to work with? I unfortunately haven't started yet, I had to go get propane, copper, and I'm going to go handle hunting in a little, and possibly hit the forge. 

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4 minutes ago, Zeb Camper said:

I wonder if a sledge hammer handle would be fat enough to work with? I unfortunately haven't started yet, I had to go get propane, copper, and I'm going to go handle hunting in a little, and possibly hit the forge. 

Should work. Old baseball bat as well. The kama I handled years ago did not have very large, diameter, handles at all.

I still have a setvof traditional tonfa around and they are fairly slim.

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2 hours ago, Jeremy Blohm said:

Black locust is a good choice up there with hickory.  But doesn't have much character unless you get a chunk of burl.

 Lol, black locusts was the wood I first tried to learn carving on, I still have scars from the blisters on my soul! One of the toughest woods available, (hell they used to make nails for wooden ships out of it) but you best have power equipment if you want to do much shaping, unless you work it wet. I've got about 6 foot of the stuff destined for a walking staff but I ordered a brand new set of double cut carbide cutters as well lol.

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53 minutes ago, Jonathan Silas said:

 Lol, black locusts was the wood I first tried to learn carving on, I still have scars from the blisters on my soul! One of the toughest woods available, (hell they used to make nails for wooden ships out of it) but you best have power equipment if you want to do much shaping, unless you work it wet. I've got about 6 foot of the stuff destined for a walking staff but I ordered a brand new set of double cut carbide cutters as well lol.

Cutting it is hell on chainsaw chains too. But it has the least amount of shrinkage out of north american woods and can be used outdoors without chemical treating.

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Got the blade roughed out earlier. It put up quite a fight. I hope I met the average length of a kama. I wouldn't mind forging another as I think I would've done it differently if I did it again. I'll do some sketches of the blade on a handle to see if it's salvagable. I wanted it to be a bit sharper of an angle, but it could look cool I don't know. 

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Impressive bit of work there.

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Very nice looking blade.

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