Niels Provos Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I have been toying with the idea of making a video that explains the pattern-welding process via computer visuals. Here is an early experiment from 2016: As part of that video, I would like to show a few high-quality pictures of pattern welded examples. If anyone here is interested in seeing their photo featured (with their name) in the video, please let me know. Ps: Progress on this will likely continue to be slow but I plan to complete the video this year. 1 1 Niels Provos The Serpent in the Sword Videos - Sword Resource Search Listen to my Activ8te EDM music releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) This should be spectacular. Are you using the Thor II software to create the variations? Shall we send our photos to you in a PM for your review and consideration? Do they have to be in Viking style blades? Edited March 19, 2018 by Joshua States “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Lipinski Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Great idea! Do you think about several types of patterns? As Jochua has asked. Should we send you some pictures? As each smith has some nice and slightly different examples and variations lipinskimetalart.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Provos Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 Send me a PM and I will share a Google Photos album with you. Thank you! Niels Provos The Serpent in the Sword Videos - Sword Resource Search Listen to my Activ8te EDM music releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Provos Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Here is an example of a more recent visualization: Niels Provos The Serpent in the Sword Videos - Sword Resource Search Listen to my Activ8te EDM music releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Provos Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 Here is an update to show where I am currently at visualizing pattern development; some of you may recall this from a paper from Ypey: Let me know what you think about the current look. BTW, I am still looking for more examples of pattern welding in the real world. If you have any examples you would like to share, please let me know. 1 Niels Provos The Serpent in the Sword Videos - Sword Resource Search Listen to my Activ8te EDM music releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 That looks Cool... Are you gonna weld all those together ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles dP Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) That’s quite mesmerising to look at Niels. It would be quite cool to have row 3 from the bottom on one side of a blade and 4 on the other if you could reverse the twist and line up the stars properly. Sort of a light mirrors dark idea. Edited August 14, 2018 by Charles du Preez "The way we win matters" (Ender Wiggins) Orson Scott Card Nos, qui libertate donati sumus, nes cimus quid constet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Beautiful! For those who don't know, that is just ever so slightly deeper cross-sections on a simple twist. Ypey would be impressed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrod Miller Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Alan Longmire said: For those who don't know, that is just ever so slightly deeper cross-sections on a simple twist. Niels, if you could also add a shot of the side view showing how it is cut through, that would really drive this point home. I think that is a great presentation of the concept. Kudos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Provos Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 Sure. Here you go. 1 1 Niels Provos The Serpent in the Sword Videos - Sword Resource Search Listen to my Activ8te EDM music releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrod Miller Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Now we're talking! That is really cool, having those 2 pictures together. Fantastic work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Stephens Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Holy crap, Niels! This is amazing. That's a computer generated image? For those of you that don't know, Niels is one of those uber-cyber gods of the new universe we call the Internet. He works at one of the huge corporations with annual revenues larger than most nation's GDP and could certainly ruin your credit score or read your email at will. I think, however, he's one of the good guys that fights the evil hackers of Sauron. At least, that's his mild-mannered secret identity. Grins, Dave -----------------------------------------------"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly." -- Theodore Roosevelthttp://stephensforge.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Provos Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 They are computer generated :-) I plan to make a fully animated video that shows stacking and twisting, etc. BTW, I am still looking for more people who would like to share photos of their pattern-welded blades to be included in said video :-) Niels Provos The Serpent in the Sword Videos - Sword Resource Search Listen to my Activ8te EDM music releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Feel free to use these: I'll even take better pictures of the one I still have! It displays the pattern from your bar #8 on the bottom and bar #10 on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) On 8/15/2018 at 7:39 AM, nprovos said: BTW, I am still looking for more people who would like to share photos of their pattern-welded blades to be included in said video :-) Do you want us to send a PM? I thought I sent you a couple already.....but if you want some others, I can oblige. Never mind, I scrolled up and read the directive. PM sent. Oh yeah, while I'm here...…..would someone please pin this sucker? Edited August 17, 2018 by Joshua States “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Page Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 This is fantastic!! If I didn't already know they were CG, I would never have known they are not real. Great stuff, there's an insane amount of potential in this sort of reconstruction and the value it provides to the community. Cheers! Not all those who wander are lost. -J.R.R. Tolkien-Shards of the Dark Age- my blog-Nine Worlds Workshop--Last Apocalypse Forge- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Provos Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 I am getting to a place where I am happy with the visualization and can now focus more on animating the process. It's still going to be slow though. Niels Provos The Serpent in the Sword Videos - Sword Resource Search Listen to my Activ8te EDM music releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Provos Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 This is blatant advertising of a commercial offering. So don't read further if that upsets you. I liked the pictures I had shared above and wanted to make a t-shirt and a higher quality printout of them for myself, e.g. something to quickly show folks to explain some aspects of pattern welding. While doing that I figured I might not be the only one who would think that neat and put them up on RedBubble for others to buy. Here are the final pictures I came up with: Ps: I do get a commission for orders placed. As I have worked on this for almost two years that does not seem unreasonable :-) Niels Provos The Serpent in the Sword Videos - Sword Resource Search Listen to my Activ8te EDM music releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Yeah baby! That's thinking there. “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Dougherty Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Cool idea! The poster option would be a good conversation starter -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Furrer Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I can not program a circle, but I could twist up a 2" square bar of laminate and have it EDM cut. Have you seen the work of Gunther here: https://www.messerforum.net/showthread.php?58043-Computersimulierte-Damast-Muster Ric Richard Furrer Door County Forgeworks Sturgeon Bay, WI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Provos Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 Thanks for the pointer, Ric. I had not seen that yet. That's really good. Niels Provos The Serpent in the Sword Videos - Sword Resource Search Listen to my Activ8te EDM music releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Provos Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 I just posted another thing I am playing with on Twitter, I am not sure if the forum software will be able to understand it: 3 Niels Provos The Serpent in the Sword Videos - Sword Resource Search Listen to my Activ8te EDM music releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Nice! Of course, I saw Ric's analog version (in steel, start to finish on a partially-deconstructed blade you could hold as your brain slowly unwound) several years ago, but that is a great animation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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