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Where to find high carbon square or round bar?

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I have always used flat bar stock to forge out my blades. I have been wanting to try my hand at forging out integral bolstered knives but cant seem to find much for high carbon square pr round bar stock. Any tips on where to find it?

Thanks. 

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38 minutes ago, jake cleland said:

round W1 is sold as water hardening drill rod. Oil hardening is O1.

Does McMaster-Carr carry it ?

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1 hour ago, Vern Wimmer said:

Does McMaster-Carr carry it ?

Pretty much everybody has it.  Even Fastenal, if they bother to look.  My local Fastenal has the customer service motto "We don't care if you live or die as long as you leave us alone" and refuses to admit drill rod exists, but you can order it online and have it sent to your local store.

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I just checked at Grainger. 1/2" x36" rod, $11.15

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A good bit stiffer under the hammer, and prone to crumble if forged too hot.  I prefer water-hard drill rod.  It's W-1.

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The price I found was for W-1

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I have heard it is still risky to water quench W1 even though it is supposed to be ok. Your thoughts?

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Way too risky.  Last year I shattered a W-1 kitchen knife in hot water.  It's only water-quench in thick sections.  Blades are too thin for water 

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If you are interested in hamon,

 

Lots of other threads in the metallurgy section.

Some people are determined to experiment with, doctor up, monkey with water sometimes with good results I tried a bit. I now prefer better odds with canola oil for most steels if I use a steel outside of canola's usefulness I'll get a, BLADESMITHS Forum, suggested dedicated quench oil.

 

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44 minutes ago, Alan Longmire said:

 

 

23 minutes ago, Alan Longmire said:

Way too risky.  Last year I shattered a W-1 kitchen knife in hot water.  It's only water-quench in thick sections.  Blades are too thin for water 

That's what I though. Thanks for the input. 

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2 hours ago, Alan Longmire said:

but you can order it online and have it sent to your local store.

Do you do that just to annoy them?

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16 minutes ago, Charles du Preez said:

Do you do that just to annoy them?

No, but I really should! :lol:  Then at least one of the lazy so-and-so's would have to put down his coffee and admit it exists.  I get mine from MSCDirect.com, since I usually need a bunch of other little shop stuff.  They have it to my door in two days.

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I got O1 from fastenal. They had 1/2” and 5/8” in stock in 3 foot sections.

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On 5/31/2018 at 5:43 PM, Alan Longmire said:

My local Fastenal has the customer service motto "We don't care if you live or die as long as you leave us alone"

Lol, that's industry standard!

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