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A tale of 6 blades.

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I decided to try working on knives in a grouping of more than two. I typically only work on one or two at a time. So here is the beginning. It started out as 7 blades. Some got discarded along the way and replaced, some got redesigned after forging, others just got tossed.

First I grab a pencil and some paper and design the whole knife. Then it's take a template (or make one) and choose the handle material and prepare the blade steel stock.

Prep work (4).JPG

Then it's fire up the forge and start banging them out.

Started forging (2).JPG

Forging the round down (2).jpg

I  keep the templates handy during forging. I even draw the profile with a soapstone on the anvil face and hold my forging over it to see where I need to push the steel.

B&T & Bowie V3.jpg

Dagger (2).jpg

Eventually, I wind up with a bunch of forged blades.

Hunter & Boot_opt.jpg

2 of 6 opt.jpg

3 Forged knives.JPG

 

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Really like the shape of that big bowie in the last pic. 

Looking good, Joshua! Keep em coming.

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Thanks Joshua. Please show how you are going to seat that curved tang.

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4 hours ago, Charles du Preez said:

Thanks Joshua. Please show how you are going to seat that curved tang.

Sure thing Charles. Which one? I assume you mean the Bowie-ish blade in the last photo,  not the full tang model next to the other Bowie on the anvil in pic#4.. 

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Thanks, yeah that’s the one (in the last photo)

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On 4/9/2019 at 1:48 AM, Charles du Preez said:

Thanks, yeah that’s the one (in the last photo)

That one didn't make the cut. I was going to do a through-tang take-down and nixed the idea.  I made another one with a curved tang. I'll make sure I show the guard setting. It's much the same as a straight tang though.

Here are the 6 finalists after rough grind. Five in one photo and a cruddy photo of #6 that replaced the one Charles was asking about.

5 rough ground V2.jpg

6th knife alternate (2).JPG

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I'm really liking the look of that dagger, nice job Josh. Thanks for sharing. 

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These all got heat treated and hand sanded to 320 grit. then I gathered up the materials for the guards and spacers packages so I can fit them. I had to forge out some W-1 for the dagger fittings and there was some casting of plates and a rough guard for a couple of the blades. (Shibuichi plate and red bronze plate and guard).

6 knives (2) V2.jpg

Here are a couple of glam shots of the dagger HT operation.

Clayed blade (3).jpg

Tempered (2).jpg

Hand sanding 6 blades out gets a little tedious. I'm taking a break from knives for a bit. Got some tooling to work on making.

 

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I set some of the guards today,

3 guards set V2.jpg

For the big Bowie, I forged out some 410 SS

Forged 410 Guard (1).jpg

Forged 410 Guard (2).jpg

Got it all slotted and filed for fitting on the knife when,......oops. I HATE when that happens!

Broken Bowie (1) V2.jpg

Tis a pity. I really liked that blade. At least the grain structure looks good.

Broken Bowie Grain.jpg

For those of you interested, that's O-1. I love that steel.

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Ouch! It’s brutal to break a blade at that stage! How’d that happen? 

You’ll have to change your title to “the tale of 5 blades” :(

 

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That sucks :unsure:

Any idea what might've caused the crack?

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1 hour ago, Adam Weller said:

Ouch! It’s brutal to break a blade at that stage! How’d that happen? 

You’ll have to change your title to “the tale of 5 blades” :(

 

It will be remade.

55 minutes ago, Joël Mercier said:

That sucks :unsure:

Any idea what might've caused the crack?

I usually will draw back the tang ricasso area before I fit the guard. I guess I didn't do it deep enough into the ricasso area. When I fit the guards, I press fit them with a hammer and a couple of pieces of 3/8" plate. This was one hit too hard, and one too many. Probably at a slight angle. This is the second time I've done this.

 

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That is a big hunk of steel to break, wow. 

Maybe you could drill a hole in the ricasso and make a big honkin friction folder?

 

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Oh man that sucks Joshua, really liked where that blade was heading......

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Perhaps you drew it back into the brittle zone?

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Bummer.  :(

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23 hours ago, steven smith said:

That is a big hunk of steel to break, wow. 

Maybe you could drill a hole in the ricasso and make a big honkin friction folder?

That knife started life as about 5 inches of 1" diameter drill rod, so not much lost. The folder idea is novel, but I think I should hang this on my bench with a sign that says "remember to draw back the tang enough!"

20 hours ago, Gerhard Gerber said:

Oh man that sucks Joshua, really liked where that blade was heading...…

This is one of my standard blades. I have a template to forge to and have used it several times including here and here. I will be remaking another version with the coffin handle, but with an S guard.

16 hours ago, Joël Mercier said:

Perhaps you drew it back into the brittle zone?

I don't think so. Look at that grain structure. It's like perfect HT on both sides of the break. When I look at the break line it is not straight. It's curved, much like the temper color spread that happens when you draw back the tang. Using the hardness chisels, the tang side is around 58 and the blade side is like 61.

15 hours ago, Alan Longmire said:

Bummer.  :(

Yeah well, I had been meaning to make a test blade from O-1 just to check and make sure the equipment and the method is still working and accurate. Now I know.

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