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Conner Michaux

Heat treat info on M2 HSS?

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I have some old power hacksaw blades that I’ve been told are well over 80 years old, and I’ve also been told they could possibly be M2 high speed steel, I don’t know what that is or what the heat treat is like for it, all I know is that it can harden up to 64-67 Rockwell, and that sounds like some strong stuff, so I was wondering if one of the Metallurgy geniuses could give me some info on heat treating it? Its probably a really difficult heat treat but I might as well ask.Thanks.

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My advice: toss it in the recycle bin.  

Hardening per the ASM HTG:

Pre-heat to 1350-1555 - soak to ensure even heat

Quickly heat to 2175-2245 soak 2-5 min (short times for thin sections)

Quench in oil, air, or salt

HRC should be 64-66

Optional stabilization for delicate geometries: stress relieve at 300-320 briefly, cool below -150, temper immediately after parts heat back to room temp

Double temper at least 2 hours per cycle, 1000-1100

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I've made several fillet knives from .040" thick M2 bandsaw blades.  I've had really good luck with heating just the edge and using a water quench.  I'm sure it's not optimal, but it hardens well and seems to temper fine and hold an edge as well.

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The the correct heat treat is definitely not gonna be happening until I get a kiln. Ill quench a few test pieces and see what happens though.  Might as well experiment a little bit. Thanks for the advice.

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10 hours ago, Alex Middleton said:

M2 bandsaw

You sure about that? M2 teeth on a nickel steel band, yes. M2 alone is not flexible enough to make the whole blade...

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Would pictures of the blades help? All I know for sure is that they are extremely old. 

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No, power hacksaw blades usually are HSS.  I was talking about Alex's bandsaw blades.

Unless yours have markings?

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Now that you're making me think about it, I may be confusing our bandsaw blades with our end mills (don't wast your time trying to forge down an end mill :D).  I'll check in the morning.

 

Edit:  I called our saw guy.  He pulled up the bandsaw blades we buy and they are listed as generic HSS.  After some googling, I'm definitely thinking about the endmills when I referenced M2.  Sorry about that Connor.  Maybe you'll have better luck with that than I did.

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I agree with Jerrod, toss it in the recycle bin.  Could be M2, or any other steel, could also mean that it's not M2 and you could spend a lot of time trying to figure out the heat treatment.

 

Doug

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Oh, actually, now that I think about it more, this might be prime material for specialty tooling.  I'm thinking like gravers and broaches and such.  Low risk personal tools.  

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I can make a handle broach out of it, not a bad idea.  I’ve been needing one anyway. 

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