Joshua States Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I am starting a new project, one that has been on the to-do list for a while. It was inspired by a post I saw on this forum a few years ago. This will be a 4-bar project, so I need to get some materials together. I'll need this. I'll need one of those. I'll need a piece of that Then I went to work and now I have this. “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t cudworth Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Joshua, may we guess? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles dP Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 "The way we win matters" (Ender Wiggins) Orson Scott Card Nos, qui libertate donati sumus, nes cimus quid constet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, t cudworth said: Joshua, may we guess? Tom Have at it. “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I smell smoke, if that's any help... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 I don't know about that Alan, but all I can do is take my best shot at this blade. This is a bigun. It will be the second really large blade I have ever made. Speaking of which, I'll have to make some bigger HT apparatus...….. “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Camper Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Oh boy! I'll be watching with interest! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t cudworth Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Crap. I was way off. I saw that small chunk of chain and the first thing that popped in my head was a morning star attached to a staff. Then you mentioned big blade. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Toneguzzo Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Go man go...Shine on you crazy diamond! 1 1 "Old dogs care about you even when you make mistakes" - Tom HALL - Old Dogs, Children and Watermelon wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Middleton Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 I'm looking forward to seeing this one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Christenberry Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Heck, I look forward to any of Josh's blades. I'm acquiring a list of guy's who's shops I'd love to just sit in for a week and watch work. So much talent on this forum. I've got several knife forums I started watching when starting this journey and this one is the only one I've stuck with. You guys are "something" else! 1 Chris www.chrischristenberry.com WHEW!!! If I could only know now what I "thought" I knew back then.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Brewer Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 If ya can't be good don't git caught !! People who say stuff can't be done need to git the hell outta the way of people who do stuff !!! Show me a man who is called an expert by his peers And I will show you a good man to listen to ...... Show me a man who calls himself an expert and I will show you an egotistical asshole...............!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Blohm Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I would "guess" what it is but I already seen the facebook post so it wouldn't be fair! Cant wait till it's done and see the finished project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Dougherty Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 Today I hit the forge and welded the bars together. I had done the math to figure out how much steel I would need. Then, I reread my notes on dimensions and did the math again. I needed more steel. So today I took a bigger piece of wrought and a bigger 1' round and made two new square bars. Here are the new starting bars. The short one is 18.5 inches long. So I was looking at a perfectly good bar of wrought and another bar of W1 and I dug around in the PW scrap and there was a bar of something semi-twisted, I forget what. It was about the right dimensions, so I figured I'd make a 3-bar billet as well. By the time I got done forging, I had made three billets of multi-bar steel or steel/wrought combo. Video coming soon to a YouTube channel near you. The one in the middle is for this project. About 19 inches long, 1-3/4 inches wide and 1/2 inch thick. 3 “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Dougherty Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Looking good! I'm eager to see the video. -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Colwell Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 that is a great start. I am eager to see where it goes. Regarding larger heat treatment apparatus, I suggest either a barrel with a port in the bottom side and top middle and another hole on the top, opposite side, for hanging the blade in. The hole on the bottom is actually at the bottom of one side, not the true bottom of the barrel, so you can put a burner in. I use a 3/4" T-rex type. Line barrel with kaowool, all over the inside and put little wire loops to hold it. Takes about an hour to build, and if kept covered, will last almost forever. You have to put firebricks in the bottom to create a baffle/chamber for the initial flame to go into and be redirected/trapped, so that the heating is more by convection. You will have to fiddle with how much to cover each of the top openings, and how to arrange the bricks in front of the burner for awhile. Put two thermocouple ports in, right by where you will hang the blades. One low and one high. Futz around with arranging things until the two read within about 2 degrees C of each other. You will be able to find a balance that does this. I don't have a PID, I just use a needle valve and let the thing come up to temp and normalize across the vertical distance. Then, this arrangement works as well as an electric kiln, with less scale and decarb. Cheaper, too. Or, the old standby, a trench that has another trench in the middle, at the bottom. Put a pipe with holes in bottom trench, layer with charcoal in the upper trench, and bury your blade in it. Make the pipe with enough holes that you can adjust the burn to the length of the blade you are heating. Add hair dryer in one end, and you are ready to heat treat. Joshua - I know you already know about these things, but I thought I would write them out in case anyone new was reading. keep us posted, kc 1 1 please visit my website http://www.professorsforge.com/ “Years ago I recognized my kinship with all living things, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on the earth. I said then and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.” E. V. Debs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) Thanks Perfesser! I'm always welcome for good advice on my threads. I recently acquired two well pressure tanks that were replaced with new ones......one of them will be turned into a HT oven for long blades. They both have a 1 inch MIP threaded hole in the center of the very bottom and a welded ring around the tank to keep it standing upright. You can still see the discharge pipe sticking out of the stand on the left tank. I figure I will cut the top off, line the tank and bring the burner up in the very bottom. Then I'll build a heat diffuser around it with some bricks. If I can weld another ring around the outside of the top, it should fit back onto the lower part pretty snug. Edited July 22, 2020 by Joshua States 2 “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Colwell Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 those will work great for ht furnaces. I like it! please visit my website http://www.professorsforge.com/ “Years ago I recognized my kinship with all living things, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on the earth. I said then and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.” E. V. Debs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Brewer Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 They make great vertical smokers too !!................ 1 1 If ya can't be good don't git caught !! People who say stuff can't be done need to git the hell outta the way of people who do stuff !!! Show me a man who is called an expert by his peers And I will show you a good man to listen to ...... Show me a man who calls himself an expert and I will show you an egotistical asshole...............!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 12:11 PM, Clifford Brewer said: They make great vertical smokers too !!................ Got any plans on how to do that? Because that sounds like a winner! “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Brewer Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 There are quite a few vids on you tube about building them, that's where I got my ideers from. I have an old water pressure tank out back for my near future build, just need the weather to cool down some........... 1 If ya can't be good don't git caught !! People who say stuff can't be done need to git the hell outta the way of people who do stuff !!! Show me a man who is called an expert by his peers And I will show you a good man to listen to ...... Show me a man who calls himself an expert and I will show you an egotistical asshole...............!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Camper Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I like where it's going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conner Michaux Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Me thinks this is going to be cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 35 minutes ago, Conner Michaux said: Me thinks this is going to be cool Well, right now it's freaking hot here. 117*F today. I love forging, but this is ridiculous. 1 “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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