1700s Spanish rapier?

[Dennis Todd 0]

I have what is purported to be a 1700s Spanish rapier. It was found on the east coast of Florida.

It is 33 3/4” long. On the blade is engraved” No me enraines sin honor” on one side and on the other” No me saques sin Rason”. There are 3 diamonds with dots framing each end of the lettering. The handle appears to be leather laced. Would appreciate any thought or information on this.

Many Thanks,

Dennis

[Brian Dougherty 1,422]

this may shed some light:

https://www.kshs.org/kansapedia/coronado-sword/10342

 

[Alan Longmire 3,881]

That's my feeling as well.  There was a large industry in forged (as in fake) swords in the last quarter of the 1800s, mostly out of France, Belgium, and Germany, although Spain made a good few as well.  Given that this one has the same blade etching as the Coronado sword Brian linked, plus a rather crude (compared to an original) guard, I am 99.9% positive it's a late 1800s - early 1900s fake.  It is based on a real one, I've seen the type.  The main difference would be that the way the cup attaches to the guard via those finger rings (pas d'ane in fencer's terms) would be with hand-cut screws rather than rivets, and the rings themselves should be much sturdier.  The grip would be a wood core overlain with leather or wire wrapping.  

So, while that sword is genuinely old, it's not likely to be genuine 18th century Spanish.  

[Dennis Todd 0]

It appears to have seen some use. I thank you gentlemen.the etching on the blade is quite nice but the grip and the cup do not seem to have has as much lovin. Kind of looks out of place

[Steve Elliott 16]

Either you are related to Andre the Giant or this sword was made for a small child! Very cool find none the less! haha

[Doug Lester 409]

I can see what you mean, Steve.  I would have a hard time getting my mitt around that grip under that bow guard.

 

Doug