jake pogrebinsky 116 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Curious photo,gents. It was sent to me by a friend,and in the process lost any and all attribution:) These are obviously Akinaks,a type of knife or dagger stemming(most often)from Western(-ish) Siberia...(i'll leave off any more specific cultural identification,it gets all hazy there quick). It's uncommon to see quite such elaborate ones.But mainly i wanted to ask what you guys think about the jointure of ferrous/non-ferrous here-a weld?Or some technique having to do with mechanical joint? Anyway,casual question,mainly just a cool-looking photo...:) Link to post Share on other sites
Alan Longmire 2,474 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Looks like a variant of damascene work on the blades (the dagger handles are probably cast). Not Koftgari, but the thicker, actual plating kind of mechanical lock into a keyed substrate. There are many ways to achieve the effect, and the alloy used has a bit to do with how it's done. Gold is easiest, then fine silver. It could be soldered or a eutectic bond, especially on the really fancy one. I'd love to see those up close and in person, there's a lot to learn in those pieces... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jake pogrebinsky 116 Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 Right on,Alan,thanks. I wish i knew what's up with these...Off the cuff i'd say these look like Scythian "Animal style";and must be famous artefacts...BM?... Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter-Paul Derks 191 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Thanks for the picture, these are really amazing artefacts. To my eyes it looks like the gold is either inlayed, or fused to the iron. Think of the korean ''keum-bo'' process, this technique was actually quite widespread as it is quite easy to get pure gold to stick to other metals. But as always with historical stuff, I might be totally wrong. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jake pogrebinsky 116 Posted October 9 Author Share Posted October 9 The more elaborate one must be a famous artefact,as it's images figure in a number of assorted articles. An example of some(rather disjointed) info here,on what appears to be a Turkish blog: (unfortunately my internet speed won't even let me see 99% of photos there;but yeah,by all appearances it's something from the Sayano-Altai burial mounds) https://tarihvearkeoloji.blogspot.com/2016/03/akinak-alp.html?m=1 Link to post Share on other sites
jake pogrebinsky 116 Posted October 9 Author Share Posted October 9 Aw crap....(i should've known though :(...)...Of course,it's from Tuva,the famous dig at the so-called "Valley of the Kings",specifically the burial mound Arzhan-2. In spite of an international group allegedly working there,it'll all be subject to the ubiquitous Mordorese dysfunction...:( https://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/features/f0212-focus-on-tuva-stunning-treasures-and-macabre-slaughter-in-siberias-prehistoric-valley-of-the-kings/ Link to post Share on other sites
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