Jeroen Zuiderwijk Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 It's finally finished! 13 years since I started it. It's been quite a learning project, where I took my time until I felt confident (and had the time) to do the next steps. It's certainly not perfect, and I consider it a learning project, which could enable me to make a better one next time I attempt one. For reference, here is the original which is located in the depot of the National Museum of Antiquities in Leiden, Netherlands. It's a type I narrow seax, dating to roughly around 700AD. The blade started out as an antique leafspring, probably from a hand cart used in my city. To my surprise it appeared to be shear steel, showing as layering as I forged it down: The blade after forging, with minor filing to clean it up: Then I forged the bolster and pommel parts. The holes were punched in hot, so not the most tight fit, but that's fine by me. These parts are made from 17th century wrought: At this point I had a chance to study the original in the depot. I took measurements, and tried to decipher the engravings which were very faint, and not present everywhere. There I found that I had the dimensions wrong. The length is correct, but the actual blade is a little wider, but much thicker. Mine is 5mm thick and a flat grind, base of another example. But the Nijmegen seax is 7mm thick, and strongly convex. So the original is about twice as heavy. Nevertheless, I considered mine a practice project, so I pressed on. Then it took me a lot of time to find the courage to do the engraving. I had done one other blade, a schmall seax from Weingarten. The challenge on this one was much greater, as I had to fill in the missing parts of the pattern, and I'm not good at just making something up. Here you can see my blade compared to the drawings I made of the original with the visible bits of the original engravings. Of some parts I just had a few bits of lines which I used to figure out what might have been there. Then the blade had to wait years more until I finally hardened it just recently. The blade just after hardening: 5 Jeroen Zuiderwijk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/barbarianmetalworking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Zuiderwijk Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 Then things started to speed up a lot the last days! I peened the tang, so the indivual parts became one: Unfortunately there still was a little play between the grip and the tang as the slot was a bit too wide on this one. I fixed it by drilling two small holes through the wood, and injecting beeswax. The wood was going to be covered up, so I could hide the evidence Next up is covering the grip in leather. I've seen various narrow and broad seaxes that have been preserved with a thin layer of leather around the wooden grip. So I wanted to do that here too. One of these preserved grips appears to have the imprint of wire in the leather, just like leather covered sword hilts (though from a photo, not confirmed if that's actually the case). I used a 1mm sheat of leather, and skived the edges. Then glued on with hide glue when the leather was mildly, and bound it tight with flax rope. And then left it to dry overnight. The result was pretty decent, considering this is the first time I did this. Here is the leather cover still untreated: I soaked the leather in sheep fat to protect it, and also darken it: And then it's suddenly finished after all this time! 5 Jeroen Zuiderwijk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/barbarianmetalworking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Zuiderwijk Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 And here is the result. I'm pretty happy with it, taking into account that this is a learning piece. I've learned a lot, both about the original seax and the techniques learned to make the reproduction. Things I would change for the next one: correct the section profile, and change the cross hatched engravings near the hilt on the left side of the blade. That looks out of place. I'd als skive the edges of the leather even thinner. It was now about 0.2mm. And maybe try dyeing the leather with a natural dye. I'd also use a sandwich construction next time, with shear steel edge between wrought. Not sure if that's the original, but seems more likely. Also since the layering appears to be through the thickness, due to parts of the original having been delaminated like that. Now to make the sheath, and then on to an improved version (some day) 14 Jeroen Zuiderwijk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/barbarianmetalworking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Glad to see that one finished, and glad to see you back at it! I think you captured the feel very well, even if it is lighter than the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Zuiderwijk Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 Thanks! Glad to be back at it. Jeroen Zuiderwijk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/barbarianmetalworking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard van Dijk Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Love your engraving on the blade. Richard van Dijk My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhard Gerber Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 I always say an unfinished blade sticks its finger in my eye when I see it.......13 years, your eye must hurt! Apart from that, the end product was worth the wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Zuiderwijk Posted June 6, 2022 Author Share Posted June 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Gerhard Gerber said: I always say an unfinished blade sticks its finger in my eye when I see it.......13 years, your eye must hurt! Apart from that, the end product was worth the wait Oh well, I have a pile of unfinished stuff from since I started forging/casting nearly 20 years ago. But it includes many forgings/castings that I have little intention to spend more time on, up to things I really intend to finish someday. Whatever I work on, new project or old, depends on what I find the most fun, what time I have, and which jobs I can or feel like I can do at the time. It's good to have many options to choose from 1 Jeroen Zuiderwijk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/barbarianmetalworking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Lester Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Very nice work, especially the engraving. Doug HELP...I'm a twenty year old trapped in the body of an old man!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Dougherty Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 That came out great! That is actually quite a complex project with a lot of hours in it. It doesn't matter that it sat quietly for long periods of time. -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 That one came out great. You should be very proud of that one. On 6/5/2022 at 12:36 PM, Jeroen Zuiderwijk said: I'd also skive the edges of the leather even thinner. It was now about 0.2mm. And maybe try dyeing the leather with a natural dye. When I took a class on the leather wrapped handle, we were told the top edge was not made straight. It was purposely jagged and very thin. Adding the dye makes it disappear. 1 “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Sexstone Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 That looks so real Jeroen …..NICE. I remember you starting this ….times flies doesn’t it? Good to see it finished!!!!!!! you make me think about finishing a seax I started 14 years ago….I lost my internet connection around that time and have been missing this forum …it is good to see familiar names from back then ….looking forward to seeing the sheath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Zuiderwijk Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Dick Sexstone said: That looks so real Jeroen …..NICE. I remember you starting this ….times flies doesn’t it? Good to see it finished!!!!!!! you make me think about finishing a seax I started 14 years ago….I lost my internet connection around that time and have been missing this forum …it is good to see familiar names from back then ….looking forward to seeing the sheath Yeah, it doesn't feel that long at all when you continue on it. It's like the time in between didn't happen when you continue working on the same piece. I'm also glad I get the same amount of joy making stuff as back then, and that I'm still learning and progressing. 1 Jeroen Zuiderwijk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/barbarianmetalworking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Jeroen Zuiderwijk said: I'm also glad I get the same amount of joy making stuff as back then, and that I'm still learning and progressing. That's the real deal. “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Zuiderwijk Posted May 28 Author Share Posted May 28 I've started on a sheet for this one. I skived some cow hide down to about 2.5mm. The piece of leather was a bit smaller then I thought, but I'm going with it. It's now formed and glued with fish glue. Stitching, riveting and decorating will be next. I need to make some tools for that. 3 Jeroen Zuiderwijk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/barbarianmetalworking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Zuiderwijk Posted May 30 Author Share Posted May 30 I just made a tool to carve the 4 parallel lines on the backside of the seax sheath, based on one of the Groningen sheaths. It looks comparably crappy, so I'm happy with it I will wet the leather on the sheath a bit more when I do it for real, to get deeper carvings. 2 1 Jeroen Zuiderwijk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/barbarianmetalworking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles dP Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 And this is where the original sheath-maker slipped. His expletives echo through the ages 1 2 "The way we win matters" (Ender Wiggins) Orson Scott Card Nos qui libertate donati nescimus quid constat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Zuiderwijk Posted May 31 Author Share Posted May 31 32 minutes ago, Charles dP said: And this is where the original sheath-maker slipped. His expletives echo through the ages I think he didn't care, and the decoration on the back was placed with as little effort as possible. The front side looks neatly done though. Jeroen Zuiderwijk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/barbarianmetalworking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua States Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 9 hours ago, Charles dP said: And this is where the original sheath-maker slipped. My guess is that is where he started and finished. “So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.” The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing. Josh http://www.dosgatosdesignsllc.com/#! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJMFMqnbLYqv965xd64vYg J.States Bladesmith | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dos.gatos.71 https://www.etsy.com/shop/JStatesBladesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 12 hours ago, Jeroen Zuiderwijk said: I think he didn't care, and the decoration on the back was placed with as little effort as possible. The front side looks neatly done though. This. Tod covers it pretty well in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r8cmUUz-m8&t=1s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Lester Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Todd Cutler did about a 20 minute video where he made a leather knife sheath from scratch with some simple tooling. He stated that the middle age sheath makers didn't do a better job because he wasn't going to get anything for the added work. I think that if more leather sheaths had survived more would have looked "good enough". Doug HELP...I'm a twenty year old trapped in the body of an old man!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 That is the video linked above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Zuiderwijk Posted June 1 Author Share Posted June 1 Yeah, I love that video, and the one previous to it. I love that difference in mindset. We try to perfect our craft all the time. I usually have the mindset to make somthing as good as I can. Good enough doesn't exist, but it's as good as I can make it now, and I'll do better on the next. But in cases like this it's refreshing to try to let loose of that, and do a fast low quality finish like on the original. Jeroen Zuiderwijk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/barbarianmetalworking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Longmire Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 For some reason I am reminded of one of my favorite photos: Owen Bush's house, spring 2011, I don't remember who took the picture. Maybe Grace Horne? Left to right: Peter Johnsson, Tod of Tod Cutler (his last name is not cutler, btw), I don't remember who's holding the camera, maybe Eli Sideris? Jeff Pringle, Petr Florianek, Jeroen Zuiderwijk, Josh Burrell, and me. Hard to believe that was 12 years ago... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Lester Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 And Cutler was such an appropriate name for someone who makes knives. Doug HELP...I'm a twenty year old trapped in the body of an old man!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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