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Chassepot M1866 Sword-Bayonet


Charles dP

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Hi everyone 


On a mini break in Swanage I spoiled myself and bought an M1866 Chassepot bayonet in a little maritime antique store.

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I have done a bit of digging and come up with the following:

There is no engraving along the spine so this was not made by one of the four big state arms manufacturers but by a contracting company. Unfortunately this also makes the year and place of manufacture difficult to tell.

 

Though there are a few small chips on the curved edge, the blade has not been sharpened so it may never have been actually issued to a unit.

 

There is an obvious serial number on the left of the guard which looks like z0 507(3?). There appears to be a second serial number on the right guard so it may have been captured and re-issued by the Germans during the Franco-Prussian war of 1870-1871 as many were.

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The second serial number is very shallow and difficult to see/photograph. It looks like it may be

2R14.52?4

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At the base of the blade on the left is an stamp which looks like an upside down P (upside down relative to all the other stamps I have seen)

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There is no frog (just 2 dents) or serial number on the scabbard so it is impossible to tell if this originally came with the bayonet.

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There is a small five-pointed star on the quillion (which may be an inspection mark) and signs of another lower down which has been mostly worn away

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So that is my present to myself. Does anyone know more about these bayonets and  could they please shed some more light on this? A promising dead link for French bayonet serial numbers I found on greatwarforum.org is http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/HTNL DOCUMNETS/1866_chassepot.htm may have had some info, but, even correcting the typos it is still dead. Anyone perhaps have an alternative link?

 

Thanks,
CdP

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You can try here for info;

https://www.gunboards.com/forums/french-firearms-board.11/

 

or here;

 

https://www.gunboards.com/forums/militaria-swords-bayonets-edged-weapons-forum.23/

 

You'll have to sign up to be a member if you want to post your pictures or ask questions though.

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Thanks Gazz. I’ll have a browse and see what I can learn before joining. I have just discovered that the Z prefix means that the bayonet would have been issued without a rifle to e.g. medical corps, musician, artillery operator, etc.

Thanks Alan. That is where I started my search and is a very useful site.

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Nos qui libertate donati nescimus quid constat

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