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Bjorn Gylfason

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Now that it's far enough along that I'm pretty confident in not messing it up I thought I'd make a pist about it :lol:

 

After my third visit to Moesgård museum I just couldn't help myself any longer and just had to try out one of those blades.

 

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I wanted to make one of the narrow octagonal ones and started with a simple twisted core. Many of those finds have absolutely wild patterns but let's start easy alright :lol:

 

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Ground it to a diamond cross section first and then lots of draw filing to put in the secondary bevels

 

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It really helps to use the permanent markers to see what I'm doing

 

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Once polished and etched I had to scratch my head a bit over handle materials. Many of the originals had ivory but decided to go a bit less plausible with sicilian olive

 

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it does have a nice golden hue to it once oiled and polished up a bit.

 

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and I wanted to do a metal wrapped grip. Not exactly like the original would be done but just trying to get the right vibe

 

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First of three rings brazed

 

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Then the filler pieces, will do a little chiseling in them before final assembly

 

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Now I couldn't find any direct evidence of plates on the lower guards in these specific finds but as they were common for the roman specific ones and some of the surviving guards seem to have a recess for them I went ahead and put on in anyway

 

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and that is as far as I am with it right now. Still researching and stuttering þy way through the german text about the scabbards before I put everything together permanently 

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Awesome!

 

Oddly enough, I'm going to ask about the beaded wire:  Did you make that, or buy it?  I've always had to make it myself...

 

I like the olivewood as well. 

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I wanna be you when I grow up.......

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“So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.”

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"Many of those finds have absolutely wild patterns" as Bjorn has noticed. You did a beautiful classic pattern! But there are some absolutely odd ones. I've seen them only on pictures, tried to copy one, but my interpretation came out far from original.

 

And I admire the grip with those brazed wires. It is a jewelry level to me.

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15 hours ago, Alan Longmire said:

Awesome!

 

Oddly enough, I'm going to ask about the beaded wire:  Did you make that, or buy it?  I've always had to make it myself...

 

I like the olivewood as well. 

 

I can get it premade in several sizes in both silver and gold from a local jewelry supply shop. Though I feel like I need to practice and start making them myself for a more authentic look

 

10 hours ago, Joshua States said:

I wanna be you when I grow up.......

 

Thanks, but reconsider :lol: being me is not something I would wish upon anyone 

 

41 minutes ago, Kris Lipinski said:

"Many of those finds have absolutely wild patterns" as Bjorn has noticed. You did a beautiful classic pattern! But there are some absolutely odd ones. I've seen them only on pictures, tried to copy one, but my interpretation came out far from original.

 

And I admire the grip with those brazed wires. It is a jewelry level to me.

 

Annoyingly the museum is set up to entertain the masses with atmosphere that is a bit detrimental to getting good pictures or really leaning in to look at all the details but still a great place to visit. I also got a couple of the archeological books about the finds with plenty of details. 

 

The patterns in many of the blades are mind boggling and for some I really can't think of a method other than mosaic to achieve. Truly a fascinating era

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13 hours ago, Bjorn Gylfason said:

Thanks, but reconsider :lol: being me is not something I would wish upon anyone 

I'll grow out of it I'm sure......;)

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“So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.”

The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing.  

 

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Got around to making the peen block and getting it all together.

 

Grip is 8cm long and with this hilt style it fits my large hand just perfectly.

 

And a few numbers

93cm total length

76cm blade

900 grams

And a pob 18cm from the guard

 

Surprisingly agile 

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That really came out beutifully. The olive wood really sings, but I'm overly partial to anything Sicilian.......:ph34r:

“So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.”

The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing.  

 

Josh

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Been working on the scabbars for a bit now.

 

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then going through the books figuring out the fittings and decided this type of belt slider would go best with the sword grip

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also noticed a peculiar thing about the scabbard throats. The top plate on most of them extends out quite far, probably being shaped to follow the lines of the lower guard IMG_20240217_150643.jpg

 

drawing up to true scale. These books really are amazing to have

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and let the puzzle begin :lol:

 

 

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This was probably the most fiddly brazing operation I've done so far but it came through without too much fuzz

 

Still haven't made the piece that goes on top of the bridge and waiting with it while I get the core covered with leather.

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Good Gods man!

“So I'm lightin' out for the territory, ahead of the scared and the weak and the mean spirited, because Aunt Sally is fixin’ to adopt me and civilize me, and I can't stand it. I've been there before.”

The only bad experience is the one from which you learn nothing.  

 

Josh

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