Jeff Pringle 8 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 In a book from 1835 on gun making, the author (W. Greener, C. E.) says one should special-request the barrel makers to cold-hammer the barrels for a half-hour after they are welded up, then he throws this in: “A gratuity is, of course, expected, either of money or beer, and I believe a few pots of the blood of Sir John Barleycorn will infuse more strength into your barrels than you could purchase for ten times the amount in money, as it has the effect of making the hammer descend with increased velocity” 2 Jomsvikingar Raða Ja! http://vikingswordsmith.com Link to post Share on other sites
J.Arthur Loose 190 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 This, my friend, is irrefutably true: Beer makes the hammer descend with greater velocity, accuracy & each beer-laden shot imparts a bit of poetic inspiration into the metal. Any blade made while the maker is infused with the Ale-God is harder, more flexible and longer lasting than would otherwise be true. Beer is the blood of the bladesmith, the oil of his machinery, without beer there would be no forging. It would be impossible as the bladesmith's arm would crumble like an old mummy from the pyramids of Egypt. Anvils would dissapate, hammers would shatter, forges would freeze and billow forth snow! Beer! Beer! Beer! jloose.com Link to post Share on other sites
Kristopher Skelton 1 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 light beer doesn't count, by the way Kristopher Skelton, M.A. "There was never a good knife made from bad steel" A quiet person will perish ~ Basotho Proverb Link to post Share on other sites
Howard Clark 6 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Light beer definitely does not count, stouts and porters are best. A little sacrifice of what you're smoking to the fire god every once in a while is good too. Link to post Share on other sites
Guy Thomas 37 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 "Beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy." - Ben Franklin 1 Guy Thomas Link to post Share on other sites
Archie Zietman 0 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 what about mead? "I can kill you with my brain..." __River Tam Link to post Share on other sites
Tracy 0 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Stout and Porter in the Winter and lots of Coors light to sweat in the Summer! (it gets in the 90's here at 99% humidity). And no designated driver needed in the back yard. Tracy Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Pringle 8 Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 without beer there would be no forging Ive been to a lot of hammer-ins, and indeed, beer is always at hand. (Light beer is not beer at all, 'tis but a marketing concept) Jomsvikingar Raða Ja! http://vikingswordsmith.com Link to post Share on other sites
J. Helmes 1 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I gotta say a couple of pints at the forge has on more than one occasion improves my welds. takes the edge off. http://www.jeffhelmes.com Link to post Share on other sites
Sam Salvati 80 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Beer=nasty. Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots Link to post Share on other sites
Kristopher Skelton 1 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 HERESY!!!! Beer is only teh nastay if it's really only bottle piss water A sweet, cream stout; a savory nut brown ale; a roasty porter; aw hell, I'll even admit to drinking the ol' 33 every once in a while It is meant to be enjoyed and experienced, not rushed through- like many of the finer things in life. 1 Kristopher Skelton, M.A. "There was never a good knife made from bad steel" A quiet person will perish ~ Basotho Proverb Link to post Share on other sites
Wayne V 0 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 The words "light" and "beer" should never appear in the same sentance as far as I am concerned. Come to think of there are others, like: "decafinated" and "coffee." There is absolutly nothing nasty about beer! (add my voice to the cries of HERESY!) Our ancestors were drinking the stuff before the Egyptians were building pyramids. That's a long time to perfect the recipe, no wonder it tastes so good! Some of the traditional tribes here in africa make beer from fermented Maize porridge. Now that's nasty!! They still forged some fine Assagais though. (short stabbing spear, used much like a sword) Regards Wayne Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented and fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God Your playing small doesn’t serve the world. There’s nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won’t feel insecure around you We are born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It’s not just in some of us; it’s in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others. Nelson Mandela – 1994 Inaugural Speech. Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Mayo 2 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 This, my friend, is irrefutably true: Beer makes the hammer descend with greater velocity, accuracy & each beer-laden shot imparts a bit of poetic inspiration into the metal. Any blade made while the maker is infused with the Ale-God is harder, more flexible and longer lasting than would otherwise be true. Beer is the blood of the bladesmith, the oil of his machinery, without beer there would be no forging. It would be impossible as the bladesmith's arm would crumble like an old mummy from the pyramids of Egypt. Anvils would dissapate, hammers would shatter, forges would freeze and billow forth snow! Beer! Beer! Beer! You said all that needs to be said! Bob Link to post Share on other sites
mete 0 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 From "Report on the Manufactures of Interchangeable Mechanism" 1881 . Watches - " After stoning ---are then oxidized which consists of brushing the pieces in brass wire brushing machines , the brushes revolving in a bath of beer . This gives them a frosted appearance " Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Ouellette 78 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I wonder if hard cider has the same effect (generally speaking)? Unfortunately, beer doesn't like me and chooses to separate itself within a minute Bob O "When I raise my flashing sword, and my hand takes hold on judgment, I will take vengeance upon mine enemies, and I will repay those who haze me. Oh, Lord, raise me to Thy right hand and count me among Thy saints." My Website Link to post Share on other sites
Guy Thomas 37 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I don't know what I'd do without lovely amber lagers, smooth nut brown ales and dark delicious stouts as well as everything in between. I have to thank Jesse Frank for turning me on to IPA's as well. I go crazy for hops now. Jesse can brew a mighty fine beer! I really like the ultra hopped IPA's made by Dogfish Head too. They also make a beer called Midas Touch which is made from a recipe derived by analyzing the remains of beer found in pots from a tomb dating to about the time of King Midas and it is a wild brew, very strong and has elements of beer, wine and mead. A terrible injustice was done to the American people in the early part of the Twentieth century with breweries dissapearing left and right when previously, in the late 1800's, American beer was considered some of the best in the world (even by Europeans!) with thousands of breweries across the country, many run by entrepeneurial immigrant brewmasters. At least micro-breweries are making a comeback now as well as all the full bodied tasty beers. I will admit though that a icy cold Coors or Corona Light goes down awful nice when you're sweaty and it's 100 degrees out. Guy Thomas Link to post Share on other sites
Little Drummer Boy 0 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Omigosh! From what all you guys are saying my blades are already destined for failure - I'm only 16 and I can't drink yet. Does root beer count? Or is that worse than light beer? Can you master craftsmen persuade the Ale-Gods to make exceptions for us younger peoples? Link to post Share on other sites
John Rigoni 10 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Nothing better than forging and drinking an ice cold Guinness. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Howard Clark 6 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Root beer is definitely NOT worse than light beer, there is nothing worse than light beer (except decaffienated coffee, or non-alcoholic beer). Root beers come in an almost infinite variety and spectrum of quality and taste. We will make overtures on your behalf with the fire gods, drummer boy. I shall speak with Hephaistus this evening... Your on your own with Bacchus though. He 'can be' persuaded, but sometimes the bargain is not kind. Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Lonnee 0 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Does Canadian beer count.Do like Ale myself. Link to post Share on other sites
Todd Gdula 3 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I'm glad I came across this thread now, in my early bladesmithing. I have, for the past several years, been slowing cutting back on my consumption of the golden nectar. This because my middle has been growing with middle age. Fortunately, thanks to you gents I have learned just in time that I need to drink MORE beer, and indeed need MORE middle to forge my best blades. I knew that if I did this long enough I'd find an aspect of it that will piss off my wife no end. How about a thread on beer and power tools? www.toddblades.com "Geometry says how sharp, steel says how long." - Roman Landes, Ashokan 2009 "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - George Orwell Link to post Share on other sites
J. Helmes 1 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 id say it counts a good deal farther than piss like milwaukie. creemore counts double. http://www.jeffhelmes.com Link to post Share on other sites
james G. 1 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 now i know what i doing wrong not drinking beer but at the moment the stuff would freeze before i got the bottle open Link to post Share on other sites
Monty 0 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 (edited) Light beer definitely does not count, stouts and porters are best. A little sacrifice of what you're smoking to the fire god every once in a while is good too. Never was much of a drinker , but now I have stopped completely (Damn ! does that mean I'll never be a good bladesmith ?? oh well....) Anyways, I do make up for it with the smoke sacrifice though ... sometimes I think the djinns in my forge are more stoned than I am Edited January 16, 2007 by Monty Regards, Mumtaz Baber Jack of all trades, master of none Link to post Share on other sites
J.Arthur Loose 190 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Omigosh! From what all you guys are saying my blades are already destined for failure - I'm only 16 and I can't drink yet. Does root beer count? Or is that worse than light beer? Can you master craftsmen persuade the Ale-Gods to make exceptions for us younger peoples? Learn how to brew. I mean, umm... DO AS YOU ARE TOLD! I say, let 'em drink at 14 and drive at 18, but no one cares what I think... Beer=nasty. Drink. Your. Medicine! jloose.com Link to post Share on other sites
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