Hydraulic Press

[Three Sisters Forge]

Any suggestions on a press? Looking at a Ron Claiborne. If this is not the place to post this, let me know.

 

Thanks for the help,

 

Jim

[Andy Davis]

I am also STILL looking for a hydro press!!! ggaaahhh i've been looking everywere I found one two hours away buts it needs repair. i tried finding someone to build it for me, but no one will get back to me. guess thier not taking a 17 year old seriously

 

any ideas for either of us would be great!

 

(sorry to hog your thread "Three Sisters Forge")

 

M

Andy

D

[Three Sisters Forge]

I am also STILL looking for a hydro press!!! ggaaahhh i've been looking everywere I found one two hours away buts it needs repair. i tried finding someone to build it for me, but no one will get back to me. guess thier not taking a 17 year old seriously

 

any ideas for either of us would be great!

 

(sorry to hog your thread "Three Sisters Forge")

 

M

Andy

D

 

Check this out:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/eellis2/Elli...aulicpress.html

[Bret]

If you have a welder you can use and about 8-10 hours making a press is pretty straight forward. I made a 25 ton in my back yard using steel I had laying around for just over $1000. If you buy the steel cut to size (alot easier than making what you have work and designing around it), it would add about $250-$350 depending on your design. If your were to make on on the same platform as Ron Claiborne total cost would be under $1500 (minus dies). I had a blast making mine. Made a few mistakes but they were easily fixed. Now I need to make all the dies. There are a lot of resourses out there and I still have all the info from purchasing parts so if your interested in trying this avenue I can point you in the right direction.

[Cadillac Forge]

i have had my claiborne press 2 or 3 years- i felt like i did my homework talking with several regular names on these forums all told me the same thing

go far it and plan on spending some time with bowie when ya get there instead of attempting to make a quick trip out it - he will teach you a few things about damascus- and boy were they right! i have never regreted my purchase once- one could build their own safely if you have some engineering

understanding - i am a good welder but didnt trust then or now that i could build it safely and bet your life on it !! dealing with alot of pressure

and heavy steel that can be a dangerous situation if everything isnt just right---- i have never had a problem with my machine at all-- get all the dies would be my last advice good luck bb

[Three Sisters Forge]

If you have a welder you can use and about 8-10 hours making a press is pretty straight forward. I made a 25 ton in my back yard using steel I had laying around for just over $1000. If you buy the steel cut to size (alot easier than making what you have work and designing around it), it would add about $250-$350 depending on your design. If your were to make on on the same platform as Ron Claiborne total cost would be under $1500 (minus dies). I had a blast making mine. Made a few mistakes but they were easily fixed. Now I need to make all the dies. There are a lot of resourses out there and I still have all the info from purchasing parts so if your interested in trying this avenue I can point you in the right direction.

 

I have built one already. Used the hydraulic lift that they use on trains to lift locomotives on the rail. The spec plate said 200,000#. Used a triple phase 100A motor that was for an elevator, 14" I beams and side box sections. The piston weighted 1400#, true monster. Blew it apart on the first push, lever valve was a bit sticky. Sounded like a bomb going off. The guys in the shop next door dialed 911, thought for sure we had killed our selves. They had vivid memories of the potato cannon we built the previous year. Ugly, good thing the cops had a sense of humor. This was downtown Rochester, NY.

[Three Sisters Forge]

i have had my claiborne press 2 or 3 years- i felt like i did my homework talking with several regular names on these forums all told me the same thing

go far it and plan on spending some time with bowie when ya get there instead of attempting to make a quick trip out it - he will teach you a few things about damascus- and boy were they right! i have never regreted my purchase once- one could build their own safely if you have some engineering

understanding - i am a good welder but didnt trust then or now that i could build it safely and bet your life on it !! dealing with alot of pressure

and heavy steel that can be a dangerous situation if everything isnt just right---- i have never had a problem with my machine at all-- get all the dies would be my last advice good luck bb

 

Way Cool, got mine ordered. I am going out as soon as the wife says OK, or doesn't miss me for a few days.

[Dale Huckabee]

Check out the "H" frame press made by Uncle Al at Riverside Machine. I've used it and it is a dandy.

[Andy Davis]

hhmmmm only problem is we only have $2000 and we aren't selling anything yet..... i have a job, but i'm also going to college next year.. hhmmmmmmmmmmm i'll think about the claiborne, but unless we all of the sudden start selling a ton of stuff then i'll probably not get it.

[Three Sisters Forge]

hhmmmm only problem is we only have $2000 and we aren't selling anything yet..... i have a job, but i'm also going to college next year.. hhmmmmmmmmmmm i'll think about the claiborne, but unless we all of the sudden start selling a ton of stuff then i'll probably not get it.

 

For $2K you can build one, go to Fogg site on tools, prints are available. Weld-Weld-Weld.

[McAhron]

Be innovative and build one.You have more than enough money.Check out my log splitter press I posted a ways back.Also check out Dan Pfinstiel(spelling?) press at his web site,Its entirely bolted together,or look at numerous others posted all over the various forums.

[guarnera]

hhmmmm only problem is we only have $2000 and we aren't selling anything yet..... i have a job, but i'm also going to college next year.. hhmmmmmmmmmmm i'll think about the claiborne, but unless we all of the sudden start selling a ton of stuff then i'll probably not get it.

 

 

Andy,

like dale said, goggle Uncle Al the knifemakers Pal, at Riverside machine. It may be a little over 2K but its more reasonalble the Rons press, and I've seen one in use and it works as good as any.

[Chris Meyer]

...goggle Uncle Al the knifemakers Pal, at Riverside machine. It may be a little over 2K but its more reasonalble the Rons press, and I've seen one in use and it works as good as any.

 

I don't know who actually makes those presses, but I see that Old World Anvils sells the same one. They have better pictures on their website.

[Andy Davis]

Alright, you've all shoved me into it! I'M BUILDING IT! BUT i need help... i want to build it right, and i want it to work really well.

I've decided on mr. pfininsreirs design. seems logical and sturdy. I can build the frame and everything like that, it's just all that hydraulic mess of hoses and pumps is what i'm worried about.

i've got most of the tools, and what i don't have my neighbor does. I've built my own KMG grinder from scratch, and it works great, so i know my way around machines and tools, it's just a matter of direction.

 

so what i could use is if anyone here could send me a parts list of what they used for thier pump/ram. i think MOST people get thier parts from "surplus center" correct? Links to the parts would be even better.

 

well i think thats all i need for now. ANY HELP AT ALL will be appreciated!

 

Thanks

[Three Sisters Forge]

Alright, you've all shoved me into it! I'M BUILDING IT! BUT i need help... i want to build it right, and i want it to work really well.

I've decided on mr. pfininsreirs design. seems logical and sturdy. I can build the frame and everything like that, it's just all that hydraulic mess of hoses and pumps is what i'm worried about.

i've got most of the tools, and what i don't have my neighbor does. I've built my own KMG grinder from scratch, and it works great, so i know my way around machines and tools, it's just a matter of direction.

 

so what i could use is if anyone here could send me a parts list of what they used for thier pump/ram. i think MOST people get thier parts from "surplus center" correct? Links to the parts would be even better.

 

well i think thats all i need for now. ANY HELP AT ALL will be appreciated!

 

Thanks

 

Check this out, good review. See if you cab find Batson's design, I think it has a parts list.

 

 

http://www.dfoggknives.com/hydralic.htm

[Bret]

Alright, you've all shoved me into it! I'M BUILDING IT! BUT i need help... i want to build it right, and i want it to work really well.

I've decided on mr. pfininsreirs design. seems logical and sturdy. I can build the frame and everything like that, it's just all that hydraulic mess of hoses and pumps is what i'm worried about.

i've got most of the tools, and what i don't have my neighbor does. I've built my own KMG grinder from scratch, and it works great, so i know my way around machines and tools, it's just a matter of direction.

 

so what i could use is if anyone here could send me a parts list of what they used for thier pump/ram. i think MOST people get thier parts from "surplus center" correct? Links to the parts would be even better.

 

well i think thats all i need for now. ANY HELP AT ALL will be appreciated!

 

Thanks

 

 

I can give you the parts list and detailed drawings of the Hydraulic set up I'm using. Tested mine at 3500psi with no leaks and the frame held steady. Then I tuned down to 2500psi (25 Tons) for a safety margin.

[sqeezplay]

well this is my "Mini" hydraulic press, do you think it will work when it's full grown? i used 3/4" angle iron and 1/4 inche flatstock. the proportions aren't perfect but you get the picture.

So what do you think????????????

I need help, i've built my own tools before, but nothing this big, i'm a perfectionist so it'll be perfect when i'm done.

i've got the links (given by Bret, Thanks Bret!!!) for the parts for a 25-30 ton hydraulic system, the way i figured it, it'll cost around $800 and then the frame will cost somewhere around $100 using junkyard steel.

 

so it this design workable? and would it be the strongest/most efficiant way to go about it?

 

Thanks!

[Andy Davis]

Sorry everyone, the previos post by "sqeezplay" is really me, it was my old username, so i don't know why i signed in as it... habit i guess.

 

sorry

 

 

M

Andy

D

[Three Sisters Forge]

Sorry everyone, the previos post by "sqeezplay" is really me, it was my old username, so i don't know why i signed in as it... habit i guess.

 

sorry

 

Don't know. You do need to VERRY carefully in the design of this frame, hoses and valves to take every load possible. The only one I helped build blew apart, and we built the heck out of it. It took a 14" I-Beam and destroyed it. I would follow only tried and true designs that have been engineered properly. I know you are in a hurry to get going, but be safe. I have seen two hydraulic accidents close up and they are deadly.

 

Jim