MDF Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Hello everyone, Today I found this old rail. What steel is it? It is small, I think it is 1060 or similar steel, Certainly the carbon is below .7%. Someone has ever forged and hardened this type of rail? The symbol is shown ILVA (Producerl) 555 (?) 60 (perhaps height) Thanks CIAO FROM ITALY Marco CIAO FROM ITALY Marco Di Francesco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Thomas Obach Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 not sure about over there.... but i saw this list of r&r steel for overhere http://www.iforgeiron.com/blueprints-000-1...oad-steels.html it maybe similar.... spark test it and find out.. G North Shore Forge & Ironworks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDF Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 Thanks for this list Greg, at spark test is very similar at 1070 but the hardness is below...strange. CIAO Marco CIAO FROM ITALY Marco Di Francesco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Might be 70 points of carbon, but other alloying elements messing around in there. Let not the swords of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Maresca Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 We Marco, I have hardened some piece of this steel some time ago. I too found that the hardness is low compared to the carbon content, but maybe it just needed some more soaking time, and I rushed a bit. It harden in water and it's not too fragile anyway, it could be good for an hawk. Be sure that you grinded away all the rusted surface before file test; when there is heavy oxidization, there is a thick layer of decarburated steel too. Mourir pour des idées, c'est bien beau mais lesquelles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lambiase Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 It looks like you have found yourself a length of mine track. I have a bunch of it. It hardens in water, and if you clay it, do so sparingly, this steel is barely hardenable and wont follow your clay line. I will look at one of my peices in a minute and post the steel number here for you. It was printed on the side of the track. I got my track from a old gold mine in arazona, so i dont know how much the steel will differ with age and location. Mike Lambiase Mike Lambiase Burning Man Forge E-mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDF Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 Si Giuseppe, I have done several tests and quench in water is definitely better. Thanks Mike for these informations, I had not thought about mine track, interesting. The clay hardening is a good idea. CIAO Marco CIAO FROM ITALY Marco Di Francesco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDF Posted October 31, 2007 Author Share Posted October 31, 2007 I have made some good photos with my canon. I did not think it was possible to photograph so well! This is the spark test. Some comment? CIAO Marco CIAO FROM ITALY Marco Di Francesco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerrystagmer Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Typically in track the last numbers are the weight in yards (for the USA of course) so the 60 would be 60 lbs per 3 ft. The big track around me (csx-old main line) is 141 and 138 on sidings Seems reasonable for mine rail to be 60lb/yd I'm not sure about metric countries, I'll ask my rail guys Kerry Stagmer www.baltimoreknife.com www.fireandbrimstone.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldo Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 There is a Rolling House out near Pittsburgh that I spoke to last month. They specialize in re-rolling railroad track. He told me that it was basically 1070. It range from .60 to .80 carbon and the later stuff has had Chrome added to it. I believe there is a quantity of 1" round bar available from them for a good $. It should make good sword steel and there's plenty of carbon for knives as well. Aldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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